Yeah, i ran Ecstas on my Civic for a while. They were just too loud for me... and i've been hearing the same from other scooby owners. $175 is a farkton of money per tire... more than i've ever spent for sure. But tires are probably one of the most important things to spend the cash on, especially once i really start pushing the car. haha... not that i'm trying to talk myself into them or anything...