Just got my latest copy of PC Pro and found a labs test of 9 hard disk audio players.

The summary read: "If you want to organise your music library using ID3 tags then these are the players to go for. Sound quality is excellent, there are some unique features, and navigation and integration with your PC is unsurpassed."

The winner, by the way, was the iRiver iHP-100. The Karma was only 'Recommended' and not the labs winner because: "Our only real gripe ... is the necessity to use the Rio Taxi software to transfer non music files rather than the player appearing as an external drive in Windows.". It also mentions battery life as a reason.

Nick.