I was opening the discussion up to the fact that there are other ways to help the disadvantaged. Charity is simply not enough. Without this "forced re-distribution" you speak of, the disadvantaged would not receive basic services they need. Even taxes AND charity are not enough to feed nearly 35 million Americans who can't put food on the table (whom the USDA recently reclassified as "lacking food security" to try to whitewash the problem.) If you abolished the IRS tomorrow, society would not suddenly become more benevolent at the top or middle.

I should have known better than to think you'd last more than one post without reverting to petulant flamewar mode. Enjoy the rest of your conversation with whoever decides to waste their time with you. Looking at how recent threads have evolved, I predict that number will start small and quickly become zero.