Guys, you are both right. I still had the Alpine from my last car and it the CD sound is really good and has a 4 volt output. The Empeg look much better. But I have a better idea ! I will not buy the tuner module, but will replace the CD-player with a Alpine 16:9 automatic display with: GPS/DVD/CD/Tuner. That should take care of that ugly extra DIN opening ! Pics will follow when all is installed and the "Xmas tree" playing. S