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#171188 - 18/07/2003 06:03 Conspiracy theory, anyone?
bonzi
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#171189 - 18/07/2003 06:06 Re: Conspiracy theory, anyone? [Re: bonzi]
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It was the gnomes !!!!!!!!!!

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#171190 - 18/07/2003 06:30 Re: Conspiracy theory, anyone? [Re: bonzi]
davec
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No conspiracy, just tying up loose ends...
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#171191 - 18/07/2003 08:17 Re: Conspiracy theory, anyone? [Re: bonzi]
genixia
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Registered: 08/02/2002
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What?! Don't you believe in Coincidence?
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#171192 - 18/07/2003 08:40 Re: Conspiracy theory, anyone? [Re: bonzi]
genixia
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Quotes from the Beeb, taken out of order, but vertabim from the same article;

The body was found lying on the ground, around five miles from Dr Kelly's home, a police spokeswoman said.

Well, that makes a 78.5 square mile search area.
He left his home in Southmoor, Abingdon, Oxfordshire, at about 1500 BST on Thursday and his family reported him missing at 2345 BST the same day.

The body was found at 0920 BST by a member of the police team searching for Dr Kelly in a wooded area at Harrowdown Hill, near Faringdon, Oxfordshire.

Note that is only 9 hours and 35 minutes after the family notified them he was missing, which would give a search rate of 8.25 square miles/hour, assuming that they searched an ever-increasing spiral from his home.

Police say Dr Kelly is an avid walker and has good local knowledge of the many footpaths surrounding his home.

That suggests that he didn't merely frequent one area. How did they find him so quickly?

I suppose that he could have told his wife where he was going. Or maybe he drove there, and the car was found early on.
He was reported missing only 8 hours and 45 minutes after leaving for his walk. Assuming a 3 hour walk, that's under 6 hours of 'missing' time. Has anybody ever tried to file a missing person report before? I was under the impression that the police generally don't want to know within the first 24 hours where adults are concerned. I suppose that the attention he has been getting could make them escalate their concerns.

My point is that not only is the timing of his death extremely suspicious, but so is the speed at which he was found. Was there a tip off? Or was it bloody good police work?

I suppose one thing that I've overlooked is that he was found by a member of the public out walking a dog. But the media usually reports that, which they haven't (yet).
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#171193 - 18/07/2003 09:07 Re: Conspiracy theory, anyone? [Re: genixia]
wfaulk
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The body was found lying on the ground, around five miles from Dr Kelly's home, a police spokeswoman said.
Well, that makes a 78.5 square mile search area.
Eh?

A circle with a radius of 5 miles would have a 31.4 sq. mi. area.

A square whose center is five miles from each side would have a 25 sq. mi. area.

A square whose center is five miles from each corner would have a 50 sq. mi. area, if I did my math right.

Where does 78.5 come from?

Edit: Dammit. You're right. It'd have a 31.4 mi. circumference. And the first square would be 100 sq. mi. Nuts.

I shouldn't do math when sleepy.


Edited by wfaulk (18/07/2003 09:11)
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#171194 - 18/07/2003 09:17 Re: Conspiracy theory, anyone? [Re: wfaulk]
genixia
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Don't fret it. I had to doublecheck that I was using the correct equation too. Not enough coffee yet.

Incidentally, I actually quoted above that a policeman found the body. I guess we can discount the dog-walker possibility. (Well, I suppose the policeman could have had a search dog...)
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#171195 - 18/07/2003 09:58 Re: Conspiracy theory, anyone? [Re: wfaulk]
tonyc
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I shouldn't do math when sleepy.
I try not to do math ever.
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#171196 - 18/07/2003 12:40 Re: Conspiracy theory, anyone? [Re: genixia]
jimhogan
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(Well, I suppose the policeman could have had a search dog...)

Yes, I just read somewhere on the Internet that it was a German Shepherd with a Top Secret clearance.
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#171197 - 18/07/2003 13:01 Re: Conspiracy theory, anyone? [Re: tonyc]
davec
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Loc: Georgetown, TX USA
I try not to do math ever.

Reminds me of a Family Guy episode where Chris asks Peter if he really needs to know math because his math teacher said so. Then it goes to a visualization of a farmer telling Chris, "Go down the road to where the other road bisects it perpendicularly. You'll want to stay parallel to the road on the adjacent road..." (Or something to that effect, you get the gist of it.) Next, Chris is in the fetal postion sucking his thumb...
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