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#187586 - 31/10/2003 12:18 quick dum question
thinfourth2
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i have a 4 port router

is there anything to stop me plugging in a 4 port hub into this so i can connect 4 rio recivers into the router s well as to empegs and computer

I assume that the one line going to the hub is limited to 100mbps so therefore i only get 33 to each machine

Actully looking at hub it is only 10mbps so does that mean 3.3mbps to each rio
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#187587 - 31/10/2003 12:26 Re: quick dum question [Re: thinfourth2]
tonyc
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Actully looking at hub it is only 10mbps so does that mean 3.3mbps to each rio
Right. If it's just a hub and not a switch, it'll share the bandwidth between them. Since it's 10Base-T, that means 3.3mbps per port, though in actuality it'll be unlikely that all 4 will be sending/receiving at the same time. If only one or two of them is communicating, those one or two will split the available 10mbps (minus overhead for ethernet collisions and the like.) I suspect for MP3 traffic, you won't notice any major problems, as 3.3mbps is still a lot higher than MP3 bitrates.
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#187588 - 31/10/2003 12:29 Re: quick dum question [Re: tonyc]
Roger
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Yeah, what he said -- the 10Mbps is maximum combined bandwidth -- it doesn't have to be an even split between each of the ports.
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#187589 - 31/10/2003 12:35 Re: quick dum question [Re: tonyc]
thinfourth2
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So hang low band width things off a hub and stick faster stuff like empeg on faster ports on shiny new router

counting on fingers 4 port router and 4 port hub gives me 6 ports since two are used in talking to each other arse need a bigger hub


Roots around in pile o junk and finds old 8 port one which is 100mbps


plan B

plug all recivers into that and the 3 ports on router use for empegs and PC
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#187590 - 31/10/2003 13:00 Re: quick dum question [Re: thinfourth2]
tonyc
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counting on fingers 4 port router and 4 port hub gives me 6 ports since two are used in talking to each other arse need a bigger hub
Nope. 4 port router and 4 port hub gives you 7 ports. You only need one cable between the two, not one in each direction. Not sure if that gives you enough ports for what you want, though.
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#187591 - 31/10/2003 13:06 Re: quick dum question [Re: tonyc]
thinfourth2
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No six one cable two plugs one in each unit i can't see any other way
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#187592 - 31/10/2003 13:07 Re: quick dum question [Re: tonyc]
jmwking
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Nope. 4 port router and 4 port hub gives you 7 ports.
Uh, nope. One port on 4 port router connected to one port on 4 port hub leaves 3 ports on each, total 6, for 1 PC and 5 empegs and karmas.

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#187593 - 31/10/2003 14:18 Re: quick dum question [Re: jmwking]
tonyc
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Oh, my router has a separate port for daisy-chaining to another hub... I think it can do so without tying up another port. Paul, double check that you don't have one of those.

That doesn't make me any less stupid for my logic above, though.
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#187594 - 31/10/2003 14:24 Re: quick dum question [Re: tonyc]
trs24
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Oh, my router has a separate port for daisy-chaining to another hub
I believe you mean the "uplink" port. Basically it's just a crossover port. Some routers automatically determine if they need to be uplink ports while others have switches to turn them on or off. Some also have designated uplink ports.

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#187595 - 31/10/2003 14:56 Re: quick dum question [Re: trs24]
tman
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My small Linksys desktop switch is either a 5 port or a 4 port + 1 uplink. The last port is actually shared between being a normal port and an uplink port. You can only use one of them at once obviously.

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#187596 - 01/11/2003 04:59 Re: quick dum question [Re: tman]
Roger
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Yeah, I've got an 8 + 1 port hub where the 8th and +1th ports are the same port, but you use a different hole depending on whether you want uplink or not. You can't use both at once. My Netgear switches have a switch to change the direction of the 8th port.
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#187597 - 01/11/2003 06:44 Re: quick dum question [Re: Roger]
David
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The new Netgear switches don't even have an uplink switch - they do it automatically.

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#187598 - 01/11/2003 08:23 Re: quick dum question [Re: David]
tman
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Yeah. Most stuff supports auto MDI-X now. Much less hassles with cable types now.

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#187599 - 04/11/2003 13:03 Re: quick dum question [Re: thinfourth2]
Conscientious
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Just go wireless for everything.

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#187600 - 04/11/2003 13:22 Re: quick dum question [Re: Conscientious]
Roger
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Just go wireless for everything

Yeah, 'cos that always works, right?
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#187601 - 04/11/2003 16:36 Re: quick dum question [Re: Conscientious]
thinfourth2
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wireless for 4 recivers, 2 empegs and a desktop

2 slow and 2 expensive
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