#229584 - 03/08/2004 23:57
[emphatic] v2.04 released
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
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Get it at the usual place.
Changes for v2.00:
- The Windows batch file was broken in v2.00, and has been fixed, and hopefully fixed correctly. If you had install problems, try again with this one.
- Install scripts now support an "upgrade" where the existing XML file is kept intact, and config.ini is left unchanged.
- The postinstall script has been fixed to add some important config.ini changes, without which emphatic won't function properly.
- Thanks to some improvements to the Hijack user APIs, emphatic now provides the option to bring itself to the foreground on player startup. This requires Hijack v408 or later. The new behavior is now the default, so if you wish to turn it off, set the auto_foreground setting in the XML file to "false."
- New track attribute, "bpm", which is the beats per minute as calculated by the player. Shown in the Track Details screen in the default XML file
Enjoy this release, and please post here if you have any problems, or any general comments about this release. Please keep feature requests in the other relevant thread in this forum.
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#229585 - 04/08/2004 19:18
Re: [emphatic] v2.01 released
[Re: tonyc]
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Registered: 10/07/2000
Posts: 117
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Hi, I just installed emphatic, but I'm having some problems. It seems to work, but the display is ... mixed with the original output. Not sure what went wrong at which point, but it's not usable this way I tried to grab a screenshot via hijack+jemplode, but the screenshot looks normal...
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#229586 - 04/08/2004 19:38
Re: [emphatic] v2.01 released
[Re: anti]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
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The quick fix is to go into the player menu (accessible from the emphatic menu as well) and select "Info: Off." If this is happening for you every time, then I'll need you to tell me what player version you're running, and I'll have to investigate to see why it's not able to turn the built-in info display off for you.
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#229587 - 04/08/2004 19:57
Re: [emphatic] v2.01 released
[Re: tonyc]
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Quote: The quick fix is to go into the player menu (accessible from the emphatic menu as well) and select "Info: Off."
If you still get still get that "ghost Info" after selecting "off" , try holding down the "down" button.
Doing so will produce or undo the "ghost info" regardless if Info is turned off on the player's menu.
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#229588 - 04/08/2004 20:22
Re: [emphatic] v2.01 released
[Re: tonyc]
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Registered: 12/08/2002
Posts: 179
Loc: Manchester, NH
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I am having problems installing version 2.01. Here is the output of the command prompt. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am unable to create the /usr/local/bin directory myself because I get the same RC=1 error.
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Installing emphatic... =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Please enter the IP address of your empeg: > 192.168.1.115
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Please enter the directory to install emphatic to: > /usr/local/bin
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Perform an upgrade install of emphatic? Selecting "no" here will allow you to change advanced config options, and will install the default emphatic XML configuration file. If you select "yes", we will perform an upgrade install, and your existing configuration will be unchanged. If you upgrade, you will have to add new config options to the XML by hand. Upgrade an existing emphatic installation in /usr/local/bin (y/n)? n
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Would you like me to modify your config.ini to launch emphatic when your empeg boots? If you choose 'n' here, you will have to launch emphatic manually, or using a 3rd party launcher Add ;@EXEC_ONCE entry to config.ini? (y/n)? y
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- emphatic allows you to rate your songs to provide a weighted shuffle mode that favors your highest-rated songs. Would you like to add this shuffle mode to your config.ini? If you have already done this before, select 'n' here. You can always add/modify this shuffle mode in config.ini later if you know what you're doing. Add "Favorites" shuffle mode to config.ini? (y/n)? y
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- For optimum performance, you may want to reserve some player memory for running emphatic and other 3rd party applications. If you select 'y' here, config.ini will be modified to reserve 10 cache blocks (about 300k). If you select 'n', the ReserveCache entry in your config.ini will be left as-is. Reserve 10 cache blocks for 3rd party applications? (y/n)? y
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Alright, pay attention. Song ratings in emphatic range from 1 to 10. Prior to running emphatic, the player has all song ratings set at 0. This means that songs you haven't rated yet aren't going to pop up in a weighted shuffle mode until the very end. This is usually not desirable behavior.
To fix this, the installation procedure can walk through your dynamic data partition and initialize song ratings to 5, which will mean all songs start off with an "average" rating, which you can raise or lower to your liking.
I've tested this procedure extensively on my own empegs, under various versions of player software v2 and v3. I have had no problems with this procedure, but because it involves writing some data to the player's dynamic data partition, I'm giving you the chance to bail out on this part of the install. If you choose not to initialize your song ratings, you will find that unrated songs rarely show up in a shuffle, which will make doing song ratings difficult if you're in "Favorites" shuffle mode.
If you choose "Y" here, the install process will execute emphatic on your empeg to initialize the song rating data. This may take some time, possibly up to a minute or more, but probably more like 20-30 seconds.
If you're really worried, you may wish to break out of this script now and back up your dynamic data partition.
Initialize song rating data on your empeg? (y/n)? y
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Okay, I will now install emphatic to directory /usr/local/bin on 192.168.1.115 config.ini will be modified to launch emphatic on startup config.ini will be modified to add "Favorites" shuffle mode config.ini will be modified to reserve memory for 3rd party apps song ratings on /dev/hda3 will be initialized to "5"
Do you wish to proceed? (y/n)? y Connected to 192.168.1.115. 220 Connected. User (192.168.1.115:(none)): 230 Login okay. ftp> quote site rw 200 Okay. ftp> quote site exec mkdir -p /usr/local/bin 541 ERROR (rc=1) ftp> cd /usr/local/bin 431 No such directory. ftp> bin 200 Okay. ftp> put emphatic 200 Okay. 150 Opening data connection. 226 Okay. ftp: 371248 bytes sent in 0.69Seconds 540.39Kbytes/sec. ftp> put postinstall.sh 200 Okay. 150 Opening data connection. 226 Okay. ftp: 2971 bytes sent in 0.00Seconds 2971000.00Kbytes/sec. ftp> ascii 200 Okay. ftp> put emphatic.xml 200 Okay. 150 Opening data connection. 226 Okay. ftp: 15405 bytes sent in 0.00Seconds 15405000.00Kbytes/sec. ftp> put emphatic.dtd 200 Okay. 150 Opening data connection. 226 Okay. ftp: 23043 bytes sent in 0.00Seconds 23043000.00Kbytes/sec. ftp> quote site chmod 755 emphatic 200 Okay. ftp> quote site chmod 755 /usr/local/bin/postinstall.sh 550 Failed. ftp> quote site chmod 644 emphatic.dtd 200 Okay. ftp> quote site chmod 644 emphatic.xml 200 Okay. ftp> quote site exec /usr/local/bin/postinstall.sh /usr/local/bin 1 1 1 1 541 ERROR (rc=1) ftp> quote site exec rm -f /usr/local/bin/postinstall.sh 541 ERROR (rc=1) ftp> quote site ro 200 Okay. ftp> quit 221 Happy Fishing. emphatic installed successfully Press any key to continue . . .
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#229589 - 04/08/2004 20:29
Re: [emphatic] v2.01 released
[Re: mvigneau]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31594
Loc: Seattle, WA
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Quote: ftp> quote site exec mkdir -p /usr/local/bin
541 ERROR (rc=1)
ftp> cd /usr/local/bin
431 No such directory.
Woops.
Every place it says "exec" it gets a 541 error. Is it because "exec" doesn't exist?
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#229590 - 04/08/2004 20:43
Re: [emphatic] v2.01 released
[Re: tfabris]
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Registered: 12/08/2002
Posts: 179
Loc: Manchester, NH
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That's the problem...how do I fix it?
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#229591 - 04/08/2004 21:04
Re: [emphatic] v2.01 released
[Re: mvigneau]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31594
Loc: Seattle, WA
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I have no idea. My evil twin will probably be in here shortly to help troubleshoot this.
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#229592 - 04/08/2004 21:12
Re: [emphatic] v2.01 released
[Re: tfabris]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
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Which evil twin is that??? Meanwhile, I notice that the commands without the exec seem to be working fine (chmod, etc.). Perhaps try the mkdir command without the exec prefix?
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#229593 - 04/08/2004 21:14
Re: [emphatic] v2.01 released
[Re: mvigneau]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
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What version of Hijack are you running?
SITE EXEC wasn't always in the kftpd that's built into Hijack, but it's been there for quite a while. Unless you're running a very old Hijack release, I'm not sure what could cause this.
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#229594 - 04/08/2004 21:15
Re: [emphatic] v2.01 released
[Re: pgrzelak]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
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Quote: Which evil twin is that???
Meanwhile, I notice that the commands without the exec seem to be working fine (chmod, etc.). Perhaps try the mkdir command without the exec prefix?
Doesn't help with the postinstall, unless he wants to drop to a shell and execute that with the same arguments listed in the output above. But that doesn't help me automate it for anyone else who might run into this problem.
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#229595 - 04/08/2004 21:20
Re: [emphatic] v2.01 released
[Re: pgrzelak]
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Registered: 12/08/2002
Posts: 179
Loc: Manchester, NH
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I am running Version 410 of Hijack. I ran mkdir along and this is what I get
ftp> mkdir Directory name local 550 Failed. ftp>
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#229596 - 04/08/2004 21:30
Re: [emphatic] v2.01 released
[Re: mvigneau]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
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If you just run mkdir with the drives mounted read-only (without calling SITE RW first) then that's what you'll get. But I'm sending SITE RW so it's not a permissions problem. It's not really the mkdir I'm wondering about though, it's the EXEC of the postinstall script. I'm kinda stumped here...
Edited by tonyc (04/08/2004 21:30)
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#229597 - 04/08/2004 21:41
Re: [emphatic] v2.01 released
[Re: mvigneau]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
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You've probably got a file called local in /usr/ Run the following three commands in a FTP client and paste the results:
dir / dir /usr dir /usr/local
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#229598 - 04/08/2004 21:45
Re: [emphatic] v2.01 released
[Re: tman]
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Registered: 12/08/2002
Posts: 179
Loc: Manchester, NH
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ftp> open 192.168.1.115 Connected to 192.168.1.115. 220 Connected. User (192.168.1.115:(none)): 230 Login okay. ftp> dir / 200 Okay. 150 Opening data connection. drwx------ 2 0 0 12288 Apr 1 2003 lost+found drwxr-xr-x 4 0 0 1024 Apr 1 2003 empeg drwxr-xr-x 2 0 0 1024 Jul 4 2000 dev drwxr-xr-x 2 0 0 1024 Apr 13 1999 tmp drwxr-xr-x 2 0 0 1024 Apr 13 1999 etc drwxr-xr-x 2 0 0 1024 Apr 1 2003 bin drwxr-xr-x 2 0 0 1024 Feb 8 2000 lib drwxr-xr-x 4 0 0 1024 Apr 1 2003 usr drwxr-xr-x 2 0 0 1024 Jul 6 1999 drive0 drwxr-xr-x 2 0 0 1024 Apr 1 2003 sbin drwxr-xr-x 2 0 0 1024 Jun 2 1999 drive1 drwxr-xr-x 2 0 0 1024 Jun 3 1999 proc lrwxrwxrwx 1 0 0 10 Apr 1 2003 swapfile -> ./dev/hda6 -rwxr-xr-x 1 0 0 371248 Nov 15 13:37 emphatic -rw-r--r-- 1 0 0 2971 Nov 15 13:37 postinstall.sh -rw-r--r-- 1 0 0 15405 Nov 15 13:37 emphatic.xml -rw-r--r-- 1 0 0 23043 Nov 15 13:37 emphatic.dtd total 866 226 Okay. ftp: 1118 bytes received in 1.99Seconds 0.56Kbytes/sec. ftp> dir /usr 200 Okay. 150 Opening data connection. drwxr-xr-x 2 0 0 1024 Jun 1 1999 lib drwxr-xr-x 3 0 0 1024 Jan 15 2002 share total 4 226 Okay. ftp: 133 bytes received in 0.00Seconds 133000.00Kbytes/sec. ftp> dir /usr/local 200 Okay. 550 Failed. ftp>
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#229599 - 04/08/2004 23:02
Re: [emphatic] v2.01 released
[Re: mvigneau]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
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Can you run the script from hyperterminal and paste in all the debug output that comes out on the serial console?
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#229600 - 04/08/2004 23:09
Re: [emphatic] v2.01 released
[Re: mvigneau]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
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Do you have the consumer version of the player software installed by any chance? If so then you'll need the developer version.
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#229601 - 04/08/2004 23:12
Re: [emphatic] v2.01 released
[Re: tman]
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Registered: 12/08/2002
Posts: 179
Loc: Manchester, NH
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Yes...I do...I will reflash it now with the developer as well as reflash Hijack.
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#229602 - 04/08/2004 23:17
Re: [emphatic] v2.01 released
[Re: mvigneau]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
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There's the problem. I'll update my docs to refer to the fact that the install won't work on the consumer player. I think it used to before.
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#229603 - 04/08/2004 23:50
Re: [emphatic] v2.01 released
[Re: tonyc]
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Registered: 12/08/2002
Posts: 179
Loc: Manchester, NH
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That definiitely worked!!!
I think that it is pretty cool...How do I switch it off and on? Not all of my songs have lyrics, so I would like to go back to normal.
Edited by mvigneau (04/08/2004 23:55)
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#229604 - 04/08/2004 23:54
Re: [emphatic] v2.01 released
[Re: tonyc]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 19/01/2002
Posts: 3584
Loc: Columbus, OH
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I loaded emphatic on my mk2 tonight. Played around with it just a bit. It's taking a little getting used to for the user interface. Hopefully I'll grow more accustomed to it with time. Script worked great for me with v. 3.0 alpha 7 and Hijack 410. Had some weird overlay problems when I first booted but when I restarted emphatic, everything sorted itself out.
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#229605 - 05/08/2004 01:20
Re: [emphatic] v2.01 released
[Re: mvigneau]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
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Quote: That definiitely worked!!!
I think that it is pretty cool...How do I switch it off and on? Not all of my songs have lyrics, so I would like to go back to normal.
Glad it's working out for you.
When you click the knob (or use the "menu" button on the remote) you'll get the emphatic menu, and you can select "hide" to hide emphatic and go back to the regular player UI. When you want to switch back to it, open Hijack menu and emphatic will be there.
Incidentally, many of the display modes don't have a lyrics field on them, so you could just switch to one of those instead (using the "info" button, or from the menu.) Or you can create your own display mode if you play with the XML file a bit.
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#229606 - 05/08/2004 01:25
Re: [emphatic] v2.01 released
[Re: JBjorgen]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
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Quote: I loaded emphatic on my mk2 tonight. Played around with it just a bit. It's taking a little getting used to for the user interface. Hopefully I'll grow more accustomed to it with time. Script worked great for me with v. 3.0 alpha 7 and Hijack 410. Had some weird overlay problems when I first booted but when I restarted emphatic, everything sorted itself out.
Yeah, it is a bit of a departure from the standard player interface, though the player menu itself is always there from within emphatic if you want it. If there's anything in particular about the UI you don't like or have questions about, let me know. I tried to make it as easy/intuitive as the limited amount of buttons and VFD real-estate would allow.
It's also good to hear from someone for whom the script worked flawlessly.
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#229607 - 05/08/2004 01:36
Re: [emphatic] v2.01 released
[Re: tonyc]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 31/08/1999
Posts: 1649
Loc: San Carlos, CA
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Don't take this as heresy, but is there any way to get emphatic to run in the background doing nothing and only foreground itself (automatically) if a song with lyrics is played?
-Mike
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#229608 - 05/08/2004 01:57
Re: [emphatic] v2.01 released
[Re: mcomb]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
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Quote: Don't take this as heresy, but is there any way to get emphatic to run in the background doing nothing and only foreground itself (automatically) if a song with lyrics is played?
-Mike
Kinda, if I understand what you're asking for.
You can create a display mode that has nothing but a lyrics field, and set the "show" attribute to "withlyrics." But emphatic is still in the "foreground," it's just not displaying anything.
If that's not what you're asking for, can you clarify what you want it to do?
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#229609 - 05/08/2004 02:09
Re: [emphatic] v2.01 released
[Re: tonyc]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 31/08/1999
Posts: 1649
Loc: San Carlos, CA
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Quote: If that's not what you're asking for, can you clarify what you want it to do?
Maybe. I was interested in minimizing the CPU overhead when there aren't any lyrics to display and continuing to use the player's built-in UI since I am used to it. The extra display capabilities of emphatic sound cool, but I'm not convinced that I would really use them. I need to play with it more to decide. Basically I was thinking that a "lite" mode that only affected the player when a lyric tagged song came on might be more comfortable for some people.
edit: Also this could allow other apps to take over the foreground the rest of the time.
-Mike
Edited by mcomb (05/08/2004 02:10)
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#229610 - 05/08/2004 02:18
Re: [emphatic] v2.01 released
[Re: mcomb]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
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Quote: Maybe. I was interested in minimizing the CPU overhead when there aren't any lyrics to display and continuing to use the player's built-in UI since I am used to it.
Hmm, ok. When is the CPU utilization high for you?
Quote: Basically I was thinking that a "lite" mode that only affected the player when a lyric tagged song came on might be more comfortable for some people.
Yeah, the problem is I'm either running or I'm not. If I'm running, I have the whole screen, and I have to call to the kernel to display the player's screen. I could unbind from all the buttons and not display anything, if that's what you're looking for... I'll have to think about how it would work exactly, but I'll consider it.. I'd much prefer solving whatever UI problems people feel there are, though.
Edit: Just saw your edit regarding running another application in the foreground. The thing is, if I go truly to the background (the equivalent of the "Hide" option in the menu) the Hijack menu pops up, and you have to re-select emphatic when you want it back. With the newer Hijack improvements, I can "take over" the display whenever I want, but to yield the display back to the player, I need to call WAITMENU (null) which requires you to re-select the app. I don't think there's any way for the app to just sit in the background, take the display when the lyrics are active, then give it back.
Also, if you've got an app running in the foreground, what happens if lyrics pop up?
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#229611 - 05/08/2004 02:40
Re: [emphatic] v2.01 released
[Re: tonyc]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 31/08/1999
Posts: 1649
Loc: San Carlos, CA
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Quote: When is the CPU utilization high for you?
Honestly its more of a waste not, want not thing. If I don't want emphatic displaying anything at that moment it seems like a waste to have it buffering and redrawing the screen. I may have some other app running that could utilize those cycles. I haven't tried it without all the shiney, flashy stuff on though so it probably isn't as big of a deal as I am making it. It definitely lags my player and causes audio dropouts at times under your last release with scrolling text and burnin going.
Quote: I'd much prefer solving whatever UI problems people feel there are, though.
Again, waste not, want not. If I'm happy with the players menus and other UI...
Quote: I don't think there's any way for the app to just sit in the background, take the display when the lyrics are active, then give it back.
Ah, yeah thats a bummer. It would be cool to have more of a multitasked interface where emphatic can popup and show lyrics when appropriate, but if it isn't using the display something else (gps, traffic info, OBDII data, etc.) could grab it for a while. It feels like emphatic is trying to replace the existing player UI when I would prefer that it just augment it when appropriate.
-Mike
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#229612 - 05/08/2004 03:08
Re: [emphatic] v2.01 released
[Re: mcomb]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
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Quote: It definitely lags my player and causes audio dropouts at times under your last release with scrolling text and burnin going.
I've seen lag, but never an audio dropout, even with the most strenuous settings on. If you turn off the burn-in (or switch to a mode that doesn't use it) things are MUCH faster. There is still a bit of a lag when I go to read the lyrics from the MP3 file (and the player is aggressively trying to fill its cache), but that's going to be there regardless of whether I'm in the foreground or background. So even if I could grant your wish, I'm not sure that it'd bring you joy.
For now, try pasting this into your XML and seeing if this works for you. This will show lyrics when they're there, and nothing when they're not.
<display_mode name="Vertical Lyrics" visual="Marquesas">
<vlyrics font="small" color="bright" nextcolor="dim" bgcolor="black" x="1" y="1" width="128" height="32" showtitle="true" speed="5" show="withlyrics"/>
<playerscreen blendmode="transparent" burnin="false" show="withoutlyrics"/>
</display_mode>
Quote: Ah, yeah thats a bummer. It would be cool to have more of a multitasked interface where emphatic can popup and show lyrics when appropriate, but if it isn't using the display something else (gps, traffic info, OBDII data, etc.) could grab it for a while.
That'd be great, but as things are now, multiple apps can't even play nicely with each other when only one of them is trying to use the display/input. Nobody's been able to nail down exactly why, but basically, if you run two apps concurrently, even if one is just hanging around in the background, bad things often happen. Are you running something else right now that you'd want to use while emphatic is running, or are you just speaking hypothetically?
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#229613 - 05/08/2004 06:53
Re: [emphatic] v2.01 released
[Re: Skunk]
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Registered: 10/07/2000
Posts: 117
Loc: BaWue, Germany, Europe
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Yes, that (holding down) fixed it.
I'm running 2b13 with hijack 408.
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