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#242315 - 13/12/2004 18:17 Re: Status 20041213 [Re: mtempsch]
Heather
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Loc: NY
Great! Glad to see you're making progress and enjoying yourself.
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#242316 - 21/12/2004 09:49 Re: Status of mtempsch [Re: mtempsch]
mtempsch
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Registered: 02/06/2000
Posts: 1996
Loc: Gothenburg, Sweden
2004-12-21

With X-Mas approaching Fast I'm now walking shorter distances completely unaided, for somewhat longer stretches, or uneven ground I have a cane to assist balance / boost confidence. Only restricted to the wheelbarrowCC-hC-hC-hC-hC-hC-hchair around here when leaving (which means I need to take it there as well) the "selftraining" ie working alone with a specified set of exercises.

Was out on leave this weekend - had 3 cars to get going (drained batteries), a TV/audio setup in the living room that my mom had done something to so there was picture but no audio...She used the smaller plain set in my room instead It might be a bad idea to hook up the computer and Xbox as well

Got some good food as well - the food here at the rehab is ok but not exactly sensational... So on saturday it was hmecooked Austrian food and sunday was thai restaurant Mmmmmm

Left arm/hand is getting better as well. When the keyboard is in the "proper" position (typing this righthandedly lying ion the bed with the laptop propped up on the belly and knees:) ) I'm beginning to take some keys and even some combinations like Ctrl-w, Ctrl-a flag-e, Flag-r ith the left hand. Starting to carefully/very considered using it for task like holding plates etc. Not really up to proper cutlery etiquette yet though...
The times im in the wheelchair,I'm also starting to use the left arm for propulsion instead of using the legs, but it's still plenty weaker than the right, so it's 2 left for 1 right to keep a straight line....

Happy holidays to you all!
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#242317 - 21/12/2004 10:57 Re: Status of mtempsch [Re: mtempsch]
webroach
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Registered: 23/07/2003
Posts: 869
Loc: Colorado
To you as well, Michael. I'm just glad you're doing so well. I have no doubt that the Thai food was like mana from heaven after so long without!
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#242318 - 21/12/2004 12:42 Re: Status of mtempsch [Re: webroach]
mtempsch
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Registered: 02/06/2000
Posts: 1996
Loc: Gothenburg, Sweden
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To you as well, Michael. I'm just glad you're doing so well. I have no doubt that the Thai food was like mana from heaven after so long without!


Hehe... a lot can be said about hospital/institutional food - not much of it positive though
Spices appear to something completely missing in their dictionary.
THe thai was very good, but 'Schweinsbraten mit Kartoffelknödel' has a very special place in my heart (and stomach )
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#242319 - 21/12/2004 15:54 Re: Status of mtempsch [Re: mtempsch]
canuckInOR
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Registered: 13/02/2002
Posts: 3212
Loc: Portland, OR
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so it's 2 left for 1 right to keep a straight line....

That sounds an awful lot like my kayaking. :-P

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#242320 - 22/12/2004 06:47 Re: Status of mtempsch [Re: canuckInOR]
mtempsch
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Registered: 02/06/2000
Posts: 1996
Loc: Gothenburg, Sweden
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so it's 2 left for 1 right to keep a straight line....

That sounds an awful lot like my kayaking. :-P


Hehe... Thanks for the reminder - some (flatwater) kayaking might be good training/exercise for the arm come spring (not that an attractive form right now with hard gusty winds, around 35F and rain[ie typical winter weather in Gothenburg])
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#242321 - 22/12/2004 12:29 Re: Status of mtempsch [Re: mtempsch]
bonzi
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Registered: 13/09/1999
Posts: 2401
Loc: Croatia
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Schweinsbraten mit Kartoffelknödel

Mmmmm! I agree with you here. Start with Leberknoedelsuppe, wash down with Heurigen and end with Apfelstudel and Melange and my German vocabulary is exhausted, spelling errors and all, but the resulting meal is memorable!

Have very nice holidays and get rid of cane etc soon!
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#242322 - 26/12/2004 18:13 Re: Status of mtempsch (in need of psych evaluation??) [Re: bonzi]
mtempsch
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Registered: 02/06/2000
Posts: 1996
Loc: Gothenburg, Sweden
Not sure if this is a sign of improvement or that I'm certifiable:), but I Just ziptied a blue oldcathode tube to the underbody of my wheelchair(currently keep it if I decide to like go to the sales - yeah right - not that insane yet!!) along with a borrowed 4Ah gel battery - (I asked the lady that bolted on various other accessories last week [cane holder , wheel covers etc] if she had underbody neons available as well. but she just laughed and said, ""sorry,no") So I decided to do it as a gag - had 2 tubes left/still unmounted from "project geot" Now I just need a big aliminum wing )though the chair did come stock with wheelie bars! ) and some Type R stickers, preferably yellow
Now - how to mount speakers, amp and empeg...

Happy new year!
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#242323 - 26/12/2004 18:31 Re: Status of mtempsch (in need of psych evaluation??) [Re: mtempsch]
jimhogan
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Registered: 06/10/1999
Posts: 2591
Loc: Seattle, WA, U.S.A.
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Now I just need a big aliminum wing

Michael, that is great.... and any chance of a fake nitrous bottle? (Hmmm, heck a *real* nitrous bottle could be good for a laugh...) I think the psych people would say great things.

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though the chair did come stock with wheelie bars!

WTF? I thought you didn't have any lawyers in Sweden!

You need to let us know when the wheelie bars come off. Sounds like upper body strength/asymmetry is an issue right now, but we look forward to your first wheelie. It looks difficult, but after the obligatory two or three ass-over-teakettle backflips, wheelies in the traditional wheelchair are as easy as can be (evidence: even Jim can do it). Great party trick.

Merry Christmas, eh?

Scrooge.
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#242324 - 26/12/2004 19:23 Re: Status of mtempsch (in need of psych evaluation??) [Re: jimhogan]
mtempsch
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Registered: 02/06/2000
Posts: 1996
Loc: Gothenburg, Sweden
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Now I just need a big aliminum wing

Michael, that is great.... and any chance of a fake nitrous bottle? (Hmmm, heck a *real* nitrous bottle could be good for a laugh...)
grooaann...
Ah I knew it was something I forgot to steal from the hospital...

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I think the psych people would say great things.


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]though the chair did come stock with wheelie bars!

WTF? I thought you didn't have any lawyers in Sweden!


If we did, I'd sue the gym and quit work forever...

But we do have a nanny state

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You need to let us know when the wheelie bars come off. Sounds like upper body strength/asymmetry is an issue right now, but we look forward to your first wheelie

YUp - I've just started using the left arm along with the right for propulsion at all - used to initailly use right arm+leg then, both legs mainly w some right arm assist... THey're no-tools foldable/removable, so whenever I want (and there are no nurses (or mom) around ).Haven't been licensed for sidewalk climbing or stairs yet so officially they stay on and down...
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It looks difficult, but after the obligatory two or three ass-over-teakettle backflips, wheelies in the traditional wheelchair are as easy as can be (evidence: even Jim can do it). Great party trick.


Might drag it along to Amersfoort, if I still have it then, for parkinglot shenanigans...
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#242325 - 27/12/2004 14:33 Re: Status of mtempsch [Re: mtempsch]
julf
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Registered: 01/10/2001
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Loc: Amsterdam, The Netherlands
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Hehe... Thanks for the reminder - some (flatwater) kayaking might be good training/exercise for the arm come spring (not that an attractive form right now with hard gusty winds, around 35F and rain[ie typical winter weather in Gothenburg])

OK, after/before next Amersfoort you have to drop in - we can go night kayaking through the Amsterdam Red Light District... Or stop by the pizza takeaway that has a service counter down by the canal side for boats as well...

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#242326 - 28/12/2004 12:38 Re: Status of mtempsch [Re: julf]
mtempsch
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Registered: 02/06/2000
Posts: 1996
Loc: Gothenburg, Sweden
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Hehe... Thanks for the reminder - some (flatwater) kayaking might be good training/exercise for the arm come spring (not that an attractive form right now with hard gusty winds, around 35F and rain[ie typical winter weather in Gothenburg])

OK, after/before next Amersfoort you have to drop in - we can go night kayaking through the Amsterdam Red Light District... Or stop by the pizza takeaway that has a service counter down by the canal side for boats as well...


Sounds fun - cool with the canal-service pizza joint The "other" services might get too close to american (sorry guys - I do know that there exists good microbreweries in the land of the [insert modifier of choice] free) beer ... What type of canoe are you using on the canals?- hopefully I'll be checked out for canoeing by then! Do you have a spare or should I arrange a roof rack for the Pug - and drive somewhat slower than last year
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#242327 - 28/12/2004 14:14 Re: Status of mtempsch [Re: mtempsch]
julf
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Registered: 01/10/2001
Posts: 1307
Loc: Amsterdam, The Netherlands
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What type of canoe are you using on the canals?- hopefully I'll be checked out for canoeing by then. Do you have a spare or should I arrange a roof rack for the Pug

I have the heavy-duty folding (as in good old canvas-and-wood) expedition Kleppers. One of them full NATO military spec , very stable but *heavy*, a bit like paddling an aircraft carrier . I have one 1-seater, one 2-seater and one 3-seater, so no need for you to bring anything!

And in case we feel lazy, I have both a sailing rig and a small electric outboard

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#242328 - 28/12/2004 15:57 Re: Status of mtempsch [Re: mtempsch]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
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Sounds fun - cool with the canal-service pizza joint The "other" services might get too close to american (sorry guys - I do know that there exists good microbreweries in the land of the [insert modifier of choice] free) beer ...



I choose "payment" as my modifier. Where can I get some such beer?

I can tell you that in 2000, my first trip over the Atlantic, I visited Stockholm and Gothenburg, and the thing which disappointed me at first was seeing McDonalds, Burger King, Pizza Hut and 7-Eleven. Damn cultural exports. 7-Eleven seems to be at least forgivable.

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#242329 - 28/12/2004 16:27 Re: Status of mtempsch [Re: Daria]
robricc
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Registered: 30/10/2000
Posts: 4931
Loc: New Jersey, USA
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I choose "payment" as my modifier. Where can I get some such beer?

There is a brewery in NJ where you can just walk in and start drinking for free. It's kind-of like Fight Club (first rule, don't talk about free beer, second rule...), so I don't want to give too much away. Maybe I should hold a meet there...
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#242330 - 28/12/2004 18:20 Re: Status of mtempsch [Re: Daria]
mtempsch
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Registered: 02/06/2000
Posts: 1996
Loc: Gothenburg, Sweden
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I can tell you that in 2000, my first trip over the Atlantic, I visited Stockholm and Gothenburg, and the thing which disappointed me at first was seeing McDonalds, Burger King, Pizza Hut and 7-Eleven. Damn cultural exports. 7-Eleven seems to be at least forgivable.


Interesting, 7-11 would probably be on top of a"dislike most of the above" list.
True. From what I've heard, the situation in Stockholm is rather silly, with in some crossings a7/-11 on each of the 4 corners... but very few survive w/o bancrupcy longer than a 9-12 months, despite the owners putting in insane hours... while the franchise owner gets their money each month anyway. And totally killed off the "Pressbyrå" kiosks and independent small stores.
Gothenburg hasn't "evolved" quite that far - yet. nd I've found the McD salads to be quite OK! No Big Macs, fries etc since early april - been to McD once though: El Maco, carrots and Sprite light.:) But generally I used to prefer BK burgers but McD fries No fan of thick bottomed pizza - want it thin... Have cut back seriously on the pizza intake as as well, upped the thai intake though
In sddition to the 40 kg Ilost according to plan - had just stabilized at the target weight when this crap happened , I lLost another 10kg during the first 3 weeks in hospital - probably some muscle but also a fair bit of water due to the medication (diuretics ?). I've always held a fair bit of water - always had quite low impedance readings on the scale at the gym. visited th girls at the gym last Sunday - first time ever I've had a "normal" impedance reading according to them.
75.5 kg, 12.something% fat - is somewhat on the low side, for the first time in maaannyy years...
Might pick up some of it again over the holidays, but I'll try to keep most of any gain to be muscle
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#242331 - 28/12/2004 18:33 Re: Status of mtempsch [Re: mtempsch]
robricc
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Registered: 30/10/2000
Posts: 4931
Loc: New Jersey, USA
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El Maco

What's on that that's special? What's the red powder under the fries? Spicy stuff?
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#242332 - 28/12/2004 18:50 Re: Status of mtempsch [Re: julf]
mtempsch
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Registered: 02/06/2000
Posts: 1996
Loc: Gothenburg, Sweden
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I have the heavy-duty folding (as in good old canvas-and-wood) expedition Kleppers. One of them full NATO military spec , very stable but *heavy*, a bit like paddling an aircraft carrier .

That might be an experience my last canoe (slalom kayak) grew a bit small on me (or was it the other way around ) and took on an appearance more like a submarine at the slightest provocation - a little water inside, leaning far forward etc, which made for some fun behaviour if you first brought it up to speed then leaned forward with a bit of water inside... Going down! and then popping back up - unless you forgotto close the sprayskirt
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I have one 1-seater, one 2-seater and one 3-seater, so no need for you to bring anything!


What's the whitewater situation like in Holland? - I could imagine it to be somewhat meagre
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in case we feel lazy, I have both a sailing rig and a small electric outboard


Never tried sailing - except as a passive passenger on Nicorettte (currently taking part in thr Sidney-Hobart race -nutters! I say...but it looks like they did real well apart from staying alive and keeping the boat in one piece, which in this race is "doing well" )

Isn't it tricky with the winds dowb in the canals?

But an outboarder is more my style... add some cold cathode lights and we can cruise in pimpin' style
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#242333 - 28/12/2004 19:29 Re: Status of mtempsch [Re: robricc]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
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El Maco

What's on that that's special? What's the red powder under the fries? Spicy stuff?

Can't you read? It's obviously het salsasås, härlig sour cream och gräslök, ost, sallad och tomat (hot salsa, sour cream and green onions, cheese, lettuce, and tomato, I think). And the fries stuff is obviously krydda i en påse (spice in a bag).

Duh.
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#242334 - 28/12/2004 19:40 Re: Status of mtempsch [Re: wfaulk]
robricc
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Registered: 30/10/2000
Posts: 4931
Loc: New Jersey, USA
I'm such a moron.
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#242335 - 29/12/2004 00:19 Re: Status of mtempsch [Re: robricc]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
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I choose "payment" as my modifier. Where can I get some such beer?

There is a brewery in NJ where you can just walk in and start drinking for free. It's kind-of like Fight Club (first rule, don't talk about free beer, second rule...), so I don't want to give too much away. Maybe I should hold a meet there...


That would probably give it away.

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#242336 - 29/12/2004 00:23 Re: Status of mtempsch [Re: mtempsch]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
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And totally killed off the "Pressbyrå" kiosks and independent small stores.



Actually I still happened on a decent number of Pressbyrån around Stockholm, but I was probably in the right places for it. I didn't see that many 7-Elevens, but there is one prominently just outside the subway by KTH which I pass multiple times on every trip.

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Gothenburg hasn't "evolved" quite that far - yet.



Indeed, I remember more kiosks and less of the foreignish food there.

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No fan of thick bottomed pizza - want it thin... Have cut back seriously on the pizza intake as as well, upped the thai intake though



Well, would you believe the meals I had in Stockholm this time were Chinese, Thai, Korean, Indian, Mongolian BBQ, and finally I said, "can we have something not east Asian?" to my local friends.

No pizza this time, not even the local take on it which buries some bread under a pile of things which are not usual toppings.

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#242337 - 29/12/2004 06:33 Re: Status of mtempsch [Re: wfaulk]
mtempsch
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Registered: 02/06/2000
Posts: 1996
Loc: Gothenburg, Sweden
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El Maco

What's on that that's special? What's the red powder under the fries? Spicy stuff?

Can't you read? It's obviously het salsasås, härlig sour cream och gräslök, ost, sallad och tomat (hot salsa, sour cream and green onions, cheese, lettuce, and tomato, I think). And the fries stuff is obviously krydda i en påse (spice in a bag).

Duh.


gräslök apparently translates to chives (to eliminate doubt, latin name: Allium schoenoprasum Liliaceae) otherwise right on!
THe spices is a mainly pepper mix and you put it and the fries in the bag and give it a shake...
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#242338 - 29/12/2004 06:49 Re: Status of mtempsch [Re: Daria]
mtempsch
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Registered: 02/06/2000
Posts: 1996
Loc: Gothenburg, Sweden
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Actually I still happened on a decent number of Pressbyrån around Stockholm, but I was probably in the right places for it. I didn't see that many 7-Elevens, but there is one prominently just outside the subway by KTH which I pass multiple times on every trip.



Noy having been in our beloved capital for many years, I went with the impression I got from one of the TV shows - shoulda learned by now not to do that Probably overemphasized / generalized a small corner of reality to make it more sensational...


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Indeed, I remember more kiosks and less of the foreignish food there.

Well, would you believe the meals I had in Stockholm this time were Chinese, Thai, Korean, Indian, Mongolian BBQ, and finally I said, "can we have something not east Asian?" to my local friends.


I can - easily. If you want swedish food you're kind of limited to either hotdogs or the more posh restaurants.... Though there is a decent set of lunch restaurants that serve more swedish style food,but for some reason they're usually not open at night/in the evening...
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#242339 - 29/12/2004 07:31 Re: Status of mtempsch [Re: mtempsch]
julf
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Registered: 01/10/2001
Posts: 1307
Loc: Amsterdam, The Netherlands
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my last canoe (slalom kayak) grew a bit small on me (or was it the other way around ) and took on an appearance more like a submarine at the slightest provocation - a little water inside, leaning far forward etc, which made for some fun behaviour if you first brought it up to speed then leaned forward with a bit of water inside... Going down! and then popping back up - unless you forgotto close the sprayskirt


Definitely sounds like fun - but not something you want to do in Amsterdam. The water in the canals is something you prefer to keep outside...
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What's the whitewater situation like in Holland? - I could imagine it to be somewhat meagre


Well, you can always surf the wake of the (hundreds of) sightseeing tourist boats
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Never tried sailing - except as a passive passenger on Nicorettte (currently taking part in thr Sidney-Hobart race -nutters! I say...but it looks like they did real well apart from staying alive and keeping the boat in one piece, which in this race is "doing well" )


Yes, ocean races are *tough*!!
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Isn't it tricky with the winds dowb in the canals?

Well, yes - especially as the kayaks aren't very good at sailing into the wind. So sailing is best reserved to the lakes and bigger rivers.
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But an outboarder is more my style... add some cold cathode lights and we can cruise in pimpin' style

Ahh, yes. Especially through the Red Light District in the evening. Now I just have to find a waterproof case (and amp) fro the empeg

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#242340 - 29/12/2004 09:37 Re: Status of mtempsch [Re: julf]
mtempsch
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Registered: 02/06/2000
Posts: 1996
Loc: Gothenburg, Sweden
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not something you want to do in Amsterdam. The water in the canals is something you prefer to keep outside...


I hear you - I'm now well below the weight where I stopped using it - will have to look into the status and exact whereabouts - might drag it along anyway...
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Well you can always surf the wake of the (hundreds of) sightseeing tourist boats

Pretty much what I figured... or maybe plaing in the surf on the Atlantic coast...
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an outboarder is more my style... add some cold cathode lights and we can cruise in pimpin' style

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Ahh, yes. Especially through the Red Light District in the evening. Now I just have to find a waterproof case (and amp) fro the empeg


If 40isg watts/channel is enough and you don't insist on audiophile quality, I have a Pyramid amp that is expendable... and a Karma might be an easier object to waterproof than an empeg...

Beats an old workmate -he, his brother and a crate of beer drifted ca 3km down Mölndalsån in an inflatable dinghy - on a stretch that widens from a glorified ditch to maybe 6-7 neters through parts of the Liseberg amusement park here in Gothenburg into the centre of town. Crate now empty, they let the air out and took a tram home
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#242341 - 29/12/2004 09:53 Re: Status of mtempsch [Re: mtempsch]
julf
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Registered: 01/10/2001
Posts: 1307
Loc: Amsterdam, The Netherlands
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The water in the canals is something you prefer to keep outside...


I hear you - I'm now well below the weight where I stopped using it

Well, ingesting some of that canal water might cause some additional weight loss
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Pretty much what I figured... or maybe plaing in the surf on the Atlantic coast...


Unfortunately the coastline is pretty boring (as in straight, manmade)
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If 40isg watts/channel is enough and you don't insist on audiophile quality, I have a Pyramid amp that is expendable... and a Karma might be an easier object to waterproof than an empeg...

slightly easier, yes
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Beats an old workmate -he, his brother and a crate of beer drifted ca 3km down Mölndalsån in an inflatable dinghy - on a stretch that widens from a glorified ditch to maybe 6-7 neters through parts of the Liseberg amusement park here in Gothenburg into the centre of town. Crate now empty, they let the air out and took a tram home

Not bad
I also have a pair of ex-military 1-person dinghies - they fit in a normal supermarket shopping bag when empty...

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#242342 - 29/12/2004 15:16 Re: Status of mtempsch [Re: julf]
mtempsch
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Registered: 02/06/2000
Posts: 1996
Loc: Gothenburg, Sweden
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Well, ingesting some of that canal water might cause some additional weight loss



Tried something like that about 10-12 months ago - a consultancy company bought cakes for many clients -unfortunately most were tainted wit "winter womiting sickness"-virus... At my department 22 of 24 caught it - one didn't eat from it and the last one is now known as iron-belly... Lost ca 6 kg in 3 days - not very pleasant way to lose weight though...

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Unfortunately the coastline is pretty boring (as in straight, manmade)

Hmmm, yeah... but open one of the sluices and we can get some whitewater - might upset the natives though
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#242343 - 29/12/2004 16:02 Re: Status of mtempsch [Re: mtempsch]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
Grass onions??

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#242344 - 30/12/2004 04:41 Re: Status of mtempsch [Re: mtempsch]
genixia
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 08/02/2002
Posts: 3411
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Unfortunately the coastline is pretty boring (as in straight, manmade)

Hmmm, yeah... but open one of the sluices and we can get some whitewater - might upset the natives though


LOL. Those dams are worth a visit - they are rather impressive.

For those who don't know;

About half of the Netherlands is below sea level. Historically flooding has always been a hazard. In 1956 a big storm surge flooded much of the country, killing 1800 people and ruining crops and farmland.
The Delta Project was completed in 1986 and shortened the coastline by 700km to about 430km. It comprises a series of very impressive dams and dykes.
The closed off inlets are now effectively lakes. Although most of the dams allow some water to flow except during periods of danger, the flow is so limited that the salinity of these lakes is dropping - the water is known as "sweet water" and is causing a problem for the fisheries within these lakes.

The beaches are wonderful with golden sand and lovely eye candy.
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