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#279464 - 13/04/2006 15:09 Gilmour, Edge, Echo and Origins
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31594
Loc: Seattle, WA
Technique:

Guitar or bass guitar played in a steady, stacatto style through an echo (either tape or analog or digital).

Result:

Rhythmic, somewhat syncopated beat, with the main guitar line producing some of the notes, while other notes in the beat are the echoes bouncing back in between the main notes.

Examples:

Pink Floyd, "Run Like Hell", U2, "Where the Streets Have No Name", and many other examples from the Gilmour and Edge catalogs, and many other guitarists after those guys.

QUESTION:

I know Gilmour far-predates Edge in this respect. I figure Edge got it from him. But where did Gilmour get it from? Is there prior art? I can't think of anything earlier than Gilmour.
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#279465 - 13/04/2006 16:38 Re: Gilmour, Edge, Echo and Origins [Re: tfabris]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Quote:
I know Gilmour far-predates Edge in this respect.

I don't know that that's true. I can't really think of anywhere besides "Run Like Hell" that Gilmour used it, and U2 released their first album about the same time (just a little later) as "The Wall".
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#279466 - 13/04/2006 22:24 Re: Gilmour, Edge, Echo and Origins [Re: wfaulk]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31594
Loc: Seattle, WA
Gilmour was using it on albums prior to The Wall. It was just the strongest and most obvious example I could think of.

Other back-catalog examples: the last track on Wish You Were Here (1975) and "One of These Days" on Meddle (1971).
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#279467 - 14/04/2006 00:15 Re: Gilmour, Edge, Echo and Origins [Re: tfabris]
tonyc
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Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
Er... I thought "One of These Days" was the result of over-dubbing two bass parts...
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#279468 - 14/04/2006 01:21 Re: Gilmour, Edge, Echo and Origins [Re: tonyc]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31594
Loc: Seattle, WA
Quote:
Er... I thought "One of These Days" was the result of over-dubbing two bass parts...

If it was, the result is essentially the same as if it had been done with an echo. I know that when they performed it live on tour during the 90's, they did it with an echo.

In any case, I know that the trick predates 1980, I'm just looking for an early example from someone other than Gilmour.
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#279469 - 14/04/2006 01:24 Re: Gilmour, Edge, Echo and Origins [Re: tfabris]
msaeger
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Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
So did anyone get the new Gilmour album ?

You can hear the entire thing here.

I really liked his last two solo records but this one sounds nothing like those.

Edit:
Ok I guess it's just clips now I thought it was the full songs before right after the album came out.


Edited by msaeger (14/04/2006 01:28)
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#279470 - 14/04/2006 01:28 Re: Gilmour, Edge, Echo and Origins [Re: msaeger]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31594
Loc: Seattle, WA
Hm. Listening to first track. Sounds like him.
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#279471 - 14/04/2006 01:32 Re: Gilmour, Edge, Echo and Origins [Re: tfabris]
msaeger
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Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
Him minus the guitars
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