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#296948 - 24/04/2007 17:47 Re: Don Imus [Re: andy]
TigerJimmy
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Registered: 15/02/2002
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It is good to find a Christian who actually thinks about his faith, even if I still think he is wrong


That's because they either stop or they don't stay Christians for very long. You've just got this little window to catch them...

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#296949 - 24/04/2007 19:42 Re: Don Imus [Re: TigerJimmy]
andy
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He is a bit of an exception to the rule, he has been thinking about it deeply (and studying it hard) for the last five years now.
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#296950 - 24/04/2007 23:39 Re: Don Imus [Re: webroach]
lectric
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Registered: 20/01/2002
Posts: 2085
Loc: New Orleans, LA
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The importance of that relies on a belief in an All Powerful Sky Faerie, though.
Obviously, If one doesn't believe in God, the concept of sin is irrelevant, so why worry about what those of us that DO believe in God consider sins?

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#296951 - 24/04/2007 23:51 Re: Don Imus [Re: lectric]
webroach
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Registered: 23/07/2003
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Loc: Colorado
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The importance of that relies on a belief in an All Powerful Sky Faerie, though.
Obviously, If one doesn't believe in God, the concept of sin is irrelevant, so why worry about what those of us that DO believe in God consider sins?


Because you're wrong. The concept of sin is relevant to me every day, whether or not I believe in the concept. It affects the programming on TV, the laws of the world, what form marriage is permitted to take, what types of relationships people are permitted to pursue without losing their children, when I can buy a car / alcohol, etc., etc., ....

Or am I missing the point of your question?
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#296952 - 25/04/2007 01:15 Re: Don Imus [Re: webroach]
lectric
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Registered: 20/01/2002
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Loc: New Orleans, LA
Hmm... Fortunately, I'm not one of those that feels the need to impose my will on others. I DO, however, see your point.

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#296953 - 25/04/2007 01:19 Re: Don Imus [Re: lectric]
webroach
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Registered: 23/07/2003
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Loc: Colorado
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Hmm... Fortunately, I'm not one of those that feels the need to impose my will on others. I DO, however, see your point.


Ah, sorry. I didn't mean to imply that!

I just meant that the belief in sin affects even those who don't believe in the concept.

I actually have no problem with people who live their life following the teachings of Jesus (like you, if I understand). It's those that think they have to "save" everyone else that get me going. It's funny, I have exactly one seriously religious friend. He's Mormon, and we have the strangest friendship ever: he's thrilled that I'm an atheist. THRILLED. Go figure.
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#296954 - 25/04/2007 01:29 Re: Don Imus [Re: webroach]
lectric
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Registered: 20/01/2002
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Loc: New Orleans, LA
No need to apologize. You are right. That being said, I'm also one of those kookie christians that drinks, smokes, and had plenty of premarital sex. That being said, I know that drinking and smoking are bad for me, and the sex bothers me now that I'm married. Had I the chance to do it over again, I would probably abstain. It always did bother me that I couldn't buy alcohol on Sundays in Alabama. That problem has been resolved. In New Orleans, I can buy a daiquiri at a drive through daiquiri shop at 4 AM on a Sunday morning if I feel like it. 'Course, I never feel like it any more. Man, I hate getting old.

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#296955 - 25/04/2007 01:32 Re: Don Imus [Re: lectric]
webroach
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Registered: 23/07/2003
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Loc: Colorado
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In New Orleans, I can buy a daiquiri at a drive through daiquiri shop at 4 AM on a Sunday morning if I feel like it.


Ok, color me jealous.

The best I can do at 4 AM in Denver is amazing falafel. Well, amazing Mediterranean food in general.
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#296956 - 25/04/2007 02:17 Re: Don Imus [Re: webroach]
lectric
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Registered: 20/01/2002
Posts: 2085
Loc: New Orleans, LA
Funny thing is, it's illegal to drive with an open alcohol container here. Trick is, a daiquiri isn't considered open until the straw is put in. Yeeeaaah, that makes sense.

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