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#299723 - 26/06/2007 20:17 Stuck on a bad track
msaeger
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Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
My player is stuck on a bad track and locks up a few seconds after starting up. It is the only track in the playlist so I can't just skip it. I can't get it to sync with emplode when it is frozen.

Any ideas other than the disk builder ?
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#299724 - 26/06/2007 20:38 Re: Stuck on a bad track [Re: msaeger]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14486
Loc: Canada
Connect via serial, hit control^C, then either delete the track manually from the fids directory, or just do "player -i" and lose all of your settings (if any).

Some people have put "player -i" onto the Hijack Menu with a config.ini entry, to avoid the need for a serial connection here.

Cheers

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#299725 - 26/06/2007 20:39 Re: Stuck on a bad track [Re: mlord]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14486
Loc: Canada
Quote:
Connect via serial, hit control^C, then either delete the track manually from the fids directory, or just do "player -i" and lose all of your settings (if any).

Some people have put "player -i" onto the Hijack Menu with a config.ini entry, to avoid the need for a serial connection here.

Cheers


Related to this, what do y'all think about perhaps having Hijack just reset the current playlist (in memory, not disk!) to NULL whenever the player crashes ?

-ml

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#299726 - 26/06/2007 20:41 Re: Stuck on a bad track [Re: mlord]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14486
Loc: Canada
Quote:
Quote:
Connect via serial, hit control^C, then either delete the track manually from the fids directory, or just do "player -i" and lose all of your settings (if any).

Some people have put "player -i" onto the Hijack Menu with a config.ini entry, to avoid the need for a serial connection here.

Cheers


Related to this, what do y'all think about perhaps having Hijack just reset the current playlist (in memory, not disk!) to NULL whenever the player crashes ?

-ml


Or perhaps even better, maybe I'll just code up a new pemanent Hijack Menu entry for "Abandon Current Playlist", or something similar.. ?

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#299727 - 26/06/2007 21:27 Re: Stuck on a bad track [Re: mlord]
msaeger
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Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
Thanks for the info. I can't get a connection over serial I am using a usb to serial adapter but it worked before.
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#299728 - 27/06/2007 01:42 Re: Stuck on a bad track [Re: mlord]
maczrool
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Registered: 13/01/2002
Posts: 1649
Loc: Louisiana, USA
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maybe I'll just code up a new pemanent Hijack Menu entry for "Abandon Current Playlist", or something similar.. ?


Hi Mark,

That sounds very useful.

Stu
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#299729 - 27/06/2007 02:08 Re: Stuck on a bad track [Re: msaeger]
msaeger
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Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
Thanks again I did get in using my serial to usb converter and player -i fixed it.
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#299730 - 27/06/2007 11:46 Re: Stuck on a bad track [Re: mlord]
Taym
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Registered: 18/06/2001
Posts: 2504
Loc: Roma, Italy
Mark,

I too think that would be very useful.
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#299731 - 28/06/2007 00:22 Re: Stuck on a bad track [Re: mlord]
FireFox31
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Registered: 19/09/2002
Posts: 2494
Loc: East Coast, USA
Sounds like some good ideas, Mark. But how could you navigate to HiJack to abandon the playlist if the player was locked? Or, would you still be able to access HiJack (just like during the few other hangs I've seen)?

Clearing the playlist on freeze would be a nice no-brainer way too. Maybe a config.ini option to disable it for those who love slogging through long playlists no matter what.
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#299732 - 28/06/2007 15:22 Re: Stuck on a bad track [Re: FireFox31]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31583
Loc: Seattle, WA
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But how could you navigate to HiJack to abandon the playlist if the player was locked?

Hijack is the kernel, and continues to work correctly even if the player software is totally hosed. Even if the player isn't booting at all. If you remove the hard disk, you can still get to hijack. Try it some time, it's fun.

Odds are, if the player software crashes or locks due to a bad track, you can still get to hijack.

It's the equivalent of ctrl-alt-del in windows... most of the time, you can get to the task manager and kill the offending process. Sure, sometimes it doesn't work, but most of the time it does.
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#299733 - 04/07/2007 15:16 Re: Stuck on a bad track [Re: msaeger]
flashman
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Registered: 20/09/2000
Posts: 133
Loc: U.S.
When this happens to my players...
I just boot and push the next track button relentlessly during boot up.
The player always skips to the next track before getting caught.

This has always worked for me... but your results may vary.
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#299734 - 04/07/2007 19:06 Re: Stuck on a bad track [Re: mlord]
touchstone
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Registered: 18/03/2007
Posts: 12
I think that a "Clear playlist" Hijack option would be very useful. And much more elegant than rebooting while frantically hitting the track forward button.

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#299735 - 05/07/2007 02:38 Re: Stuck on a bad track [Re: touchstone]
canuckInOR
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Registered: 13/02/2002
Posts: 3212
Loc: Portland, OR
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I think that a "Clear playlist" Hijack option would be very useful. And much more elegant than rebooting while frantically hitting the track forward button.

Not to mention saving wear-and-tear on delicate electronic bits.

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#299736 - 06/07/2007 03:03 Re: Stuck on a bad track [Re: canuckInOR]
flashman
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Registered: 20/09/2000
Posts: 133
Loc: U.S.
Agreed... my method was not a preferred one.
Thinking of fixes...
Anyone know of any possibilities for a new code drop post v3.00-alpha11?
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#299737 - 06/07/2007 15:01 Re: Stuck on a bad track [Re: flashman]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31583
Loc: Seattle, WA
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Anyone know of any possibilities for a new code drop post v3.00-alpha11?

The team is scattered to the four winds at the moment, so it's unlikely in the near future.
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#299738 - 06/07/2007 16:11 Re: Stuck on a bad track [Re: tfabris]
Attack
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Registered: 01/03/2002
Posts: 598
Loc: Florida
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The team is scattered to the four winds at the moment, so it's unlikely in the near future.


These members need to all in unison yell out "FORM EMPEG" and become one giant robot coding machine.
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#299739 - 07/07/2007 12:48 Re: Stuck on a bad track [Re: Attack]
gbeer
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Registered: 17/12/2000
Posts: 2665
Loc: Manteca, California
Quote:
Quote:
The team is scattered to the four winds at the moment, so it's unlikely in the near future.


These members need to all in unison yell out "FORM EMPEG" and become one giant robot coding machine.


That look a lot like a misquote to me. So what subversive lit have you been reading?
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#299740 - 07/07/2007 21:34 Re: Stuck on a bad track [Re: gbeer]
Attack
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Registered: 01/03/2002
Posts: 598
Loc: Florida
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That look a lot like a misquote to me. So what subversive lit have you been reading?


Voltron
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#299741 - 11/07/2007 02:03 Re: Stuck on a bad track [Re: tfabris]
touchstone
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Registered: 18/03/2007
Posts: 12
Can someone in the know post an explanation (or link to one) of how to add a player -i option via config.ini.? I haven't found anything on the BBS about how to do that.

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#299742 - 11/07/2007 12:39 Re: Stuck on a bad track [Re: touchstone]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14486
Loc: Canada
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Can someone in the know post an explanation (or link to one) of how to add a player -i option via config.ini.? I haven't found anything on the BBS about how to do that.


It would be something similar to this (untested):

[hijack]
;@MENUEXEC Restart_Player killall -INT -w player; exec player -i &


Once you get it all figured out and working, perhaps you could post a follow-up here.

Cheers


Edited by mlord (11/07/2007 12:41)

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#299743 - 13/07/2007 12:23 Re: Stuck on a bad track [Re: mlord]
brax
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Registered: 22/07/2005
Posts: 109
Loc: Birmingham, AL
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Connect via serial, hit control^C, then either delete the track manually from the fids directory, or just do "player -i" and lose all of your settings (if any).

Some people have put "player -i" onto the Hijack Menu with a config.ini entry, to avoid the need for a serial connection here.

Cheers


I ran in to the "stuck on a track" problem this morning. I used this and looks like things are back to normal now. The only thing that looks a little odd is it seems to take a long time to skip to the next track.

Thanks for this I will need to either add it to the Hijack or keep this stored away somewhere in the cobb webs.

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