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#300057 - 01/07/2007 16:30 Empeg Mark-II won't connect to Emplode
deface
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Registered: 01/07/2007
Posts: 27
Hello everyone:

I have just purchased a used Empeg Mark-II, and I'm having a problem using either Emplode or Jemplode on it. Currently, I have firmware version 2.01 Developer installed with Hijack installed from v476.hijack.mk2.zImage, and Emplode version 2.0 installed on my Windows XP pc. I have also followed the directions on the empeg FAQ about replacing the hard drive, and I have replaced the stock hard drive with a 120GB drive. When initializing this drive, I used the builder_bigdisk.upgrade file.

When I start Emplode, it searches for my Empeg, and is always able to find it (I have tried connecting 3 different ways - COM port, USB port, and crossover cable, which is what I would prefer to use, since it is supposedly faster.) Once I select my Empeg on the Select Player screen, I see messages that read "Remounting Disks" then "Waiting". Once it says "Waiting", the details show that it is processing the "Rebuilding Database" task, with a status of "Executing". Once Emplode reaches this stage, it crashes, and gives me the dreaded "Rio emplode has encountered a problem and needs to close" message. I get this result no matter how I hook up my Empeg.

When I try the same thing using Jemplode v69, my device is listed (as long as it's hooked up via either Ethernet or USB), and it looks like it's working fine, until it gets to the Rebooting Player stage. When this happens, the Empeg reboots, but Jemplode doesn't seem to acknowledge the fact that the Empeg has rebooted. When Jemplode gets stuck at this stage, I have tried rebooting several times via my Hijack menu, but with no luck.

I have also repeated all of these steps using version 2.0 of the firmware, but I still get all the same results.

I have also attached my Hyperterminal bootlog at the bottom of this post, in case that helps.

Does anyone know what I can do to get music onto my Empeg?

Thanks in advance!





Boot Log:


empeg-car bootstrap v1.00 20000601 ([email protected])
If there is anyone present who wants to upgrade the flash, let them speak now,
or forever hold their peace...it seems not. Let fly the Penguins of Linux!

e000 v1.04
Copying kernel...
Calling linux kernel...
Uncompressing Linux..................................... done, booting the kernel.

Linux version 2.2.17-rmk5-np17-empeg52-hijack-v464 ([email protected]) (gcc version 2.95.3 20010315 (release)) #2 Fri Oct 27 01:00:29 EDT 2006

Processor: Intel StrongARM-1100 revision 11

Checking for extra DRAM:

c0c00000: wrote ffffffff, read e28cc001

NetWinder Floating Point Emulator V0.94.1 (c) 1998 Corel Computer Corp.

empeg-car player (hardware revision 7, serial number 80000399) 12MB DRAM

Command line: mem=12m

Calibrating delay loop... 207.67 BogoMIPS

Memory: 10952k/12M available (988k code, 20k reserved, 324k data, 4k init)

Dentry hash table entries: 2048 (order 2, 16k)

Buffer cache hash table entries: 16384 (order 4, 64k)

Page cache hash table entries: 4096 (order 2, 16k)

POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX

Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2

Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039

NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0

IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP

TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 16384 bhash 16384)

IrDA (tm) Protocols for Linux-2.2 (Dag Brattli)

Starting kswapd v 1.5

SA1100 serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled

ttyS00 at 0xf8010000 (irq = 15) is a SA1100 UART

ttyS01 at 0xf8050000 (irq = 17) is a SA1100 UART

ttyS02 at 0xf8030000 (irq = 16) is a SA1100 UART

Signature is 20736f62 'bos '

Tuner: loopback=0, ID=-1

empeg display initialised.

empeg dsp audio initialised

empeg dsp mixer initialised

empeg dsp initialised

empeg audio-in initialised, CS4231A revision a0

empeg remote control/panel button initialised.

empeg usb initialised, PDIUSBD12 id 1012

empeg state support initialised 0089/88c1 (save to d0005200).

empeg RDS driver initialised

empeg power-pic driver initialised (first boot)

RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size

empeg single channel IDE

Probing primary interface...

ide_data_test: wrote 0x0000 read 0xff80

ide_data_test: wrote 0xffff read 0xff80

ide_data_test: wrote 0xaaaa read 0xaa80

ide_data_test: wrote 0x5555 read 0x5580

ide_data_test: wrote 0x0000 read 0xff80

ide_data_test: wrote 0xffff read 0xff80

ide_data_test: wrote 0xaaaa read 0xaa80

ide_data_test: wrote 0x5555 read 0x5580

ide_data_test: wrote 0x0000 read 0xffff

ide_data_test: wrote 0xffff read 0xffff

ide_data_test: wrote 0xaaaa read 0xffff

ide_data_test: wrote 0x5555 read 0xffff

ide_data_test: wrote 0x0000 read 0xffff

ide_data_test: wrote 0xffff read 0xffff

ide_data_test: wrote 0xaaaa read 0xffff

ide_data_test: wrote 0x5555 read 0xffff

hda: TOSHIBA MK1234GAX, ATA DISK drive

ide0 at 0x000-0x007,0x038 on irq 6

hda: TOSHIBA MK1234GAX, 114473MB w/0kB Cache, CHS=14593/255/63

empeg-flash driver initialized

smc chip id/revision 0x3349

smc9194.c:v0.12 03/06/96 by Erik Stahlman ([email protected])


SMC9194: SMC91C94(r:9) at 0x4008000 IRQ:7 INTF:TP MEM:6144b MAC 00:02:d7:10:01:8f

Partition check:

hda: hda1 < hda5 hda6 > hda2 hda3 hda4

RAMDISK: ext2 filesystem found at block 0

RAMDISK: Loading 320 blocks [1 disk] into ram disk... |/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\|/-\done.

VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).

empeg-pump v0.03 (19980601)
Press Ctrl-A to enter pump...ot: old root haokay

Freeing unused kernel memory: 4k initempeg init 0.8
I see this is a developer image!
Mounting proc
Mounting first music partition
Tried to mount /dev/hda4 as reiserfs but got error 19
Mounting second music partition
Tried to mount /dev/hdc4 but got error 6
Error mounting partitions (possibly already mounted)
Remounting first music partition read-only
Remounting second music partition read-only
No secondary hard disk
Press 'q' now to go into development mode. You Have Zero Seconds To Comply...
Starting player
Timezone: Atlantic/South_Georgia

player.cpp : 385:empeg-car 2.01 2004/07/06.
! tags.cpp : 61:Failed to open tags (0xc0041002).
Prolux 4 empeg car - 2.1434 Jul 5 2004
Vcb: 0x4054d000

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#300058 - 01/07/2007 17:05 Re: Empeg Mark-II won't connect to Emplode [Re: deface]
Roger
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Try rebuilding the music database manually.

Note: the ide_data_test lines look a little screwy, but I seem to recall Mark saying to ignore them unless you're definitely having disk problems.

Oh: unless you've actually got extra RAM installed in the player, stick with firmware v2.0. v2.01 only adds support for the extra RAM, but it's not as well tested as v2.0.

If you're using emplode, stick with v2.0

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#300059 - 01/07/2007 18:01 Re: Empeg Mark-II won't connect to Emplode [Re: Roger]
tfabris
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Oh: unless you've actually got extra RAM installed in the player, stick with firmware v2.0. v2.01 only adds support for the extra RAM, but it's not as well tested as v2.0.


I think that Mark Lord's Bigdisk.upgrade file puts the latest hijack and the 2.01 player software on there, and that's why he was using it.

Does anyone know of any particular problems with 2.01 that are above and beyond any problems in 2.0?
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#300060 - 01/07/2007 18:25 Re: Empeg Mark-II won't connect to Emplode [Re: tfabris]
peter
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Registered: 13/07/2000
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Does anyone know of any particular problems with 2.01 that are above and beyond any problems in 2.0?

I'd really hope not. It's literally a one-line change from 2.0.

Peter

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#300061 - 02/07/2007 11:16 Re: Empeg Mark-II won't connect to Emplode [Re: Roger]
deface
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Registered: 01/07/2007
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I replaced the firmware with version 2, and rebuilt the music database manually, and now Emplode seems to work fine - as long as the Empeg is plugged into my serial port. When I connect my Empeg via a crossover cable, it is not detected by Emplode. Is there any special setup I need to do to on either the Empeg or on my PC for this crossover cable to work (so that I don't have to use my serial cable for large data transfers)?

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#300062 - 02/07/2007 14:14 Re: Empeg Mark-II won't connect to Emplode [Re: deface]
Roger
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Quote:
crossover cable to work


I'm not sure how well the empeg deals with crossover cables on some PCs. Try it with a cheap hub first to rule out other problems.
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#300063 - 02/07/2007 18:12 Re: Empeg Mark-II won't connect to Emplode [Re: deface]
tfabris
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Loc: Seattle, WA
Quote:
Is there any special setup I need to do to on either the Empeg or on my PC for this crossover cable to work (so that I don't have to use my serial cable for large data transfers)?

Try the troubleshooting steps here.
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#300064 - 05/07/2007 11:09 Re: Empeg Mark-II won't connect to Emplode [Re: tfabris]
deface
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I just needed to set both my pc & the empeg to static ip addresses, and now I can successfully copy music to my empeg. One last question - is there any way to stop empeg from running the "Verifying Disk Integrity" check on every sync, since it takes anywhere from 10-15 minutes to run each time? Or could there be some problem with my hard drive that would prompt this check to be run each time?

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#300065 - 05/07/2007 12:55 Re: Empeg Mark-II won't connect to Emplode [Re: deface]
Roger
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Quote:
One last question - is there any way to stop empeg from running the "Verifying Disk Integrity" check on every sync, since it takes anywhere from 10-15 minutes to run each time?


See this in the FAQ.
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#300066 - 05/07/2007 19:07 Re: Empeg Mark-II won't connect to Emplode [Re: Roger]
deface
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During the first sync, Emplode did crash, so that's probably why I'm having this problem now. Thank you to everyone who helped me get my Empeg up and running, it's so much better than my old Omnifi mp3 player!

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#300067 - 08/07/2007 13:44 Re: Empeg Mark-II won't connect to Emplode [Re: deface]
KeNny
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Registered: 16/12/2006
Posts: 23
Hello,
I just bought an empeg MK2 with 64MB RAM. And installed Button lights, yee-ha!!!

However this player doesn't always connect to emplode or jEmplode not even with Serial support! Sometimes I'll "see" it but when trying to connect it states something like is not a valid player or player not available anymore. Same if I use static IP's and furthermore Serial should always work... (Right now, I am not even able to make it appear)

Also wierd, the player sometimes stucks for a millisecond while playing MP3 files. And at last it doesn't seem to re-boot properly after any update or forced re-boot in the HiJack menu. Only the light is pulsating, it then starts when I un- and re-plug it to AC.

-I ran Mark Lord's Bigdisk.upgrade.(1x40GB HD)
-Installed 2.01 Developer Image
-Installed Hijack v476.hijack.mk2.zImage using logoedit1.7

First I thought that there might be a problem with the HD, downloaded all MP3's to my Computer and checked whetever they where corrupt or not. Then I've installed another 30GB IBM HD.
Same issue here, so this narrows it down to the firmware or the player. -is there any way I can check the additional RAM?

I also tried the 2.0 dev. Image. With this version I don't seem to have any issues connecting to Emplode or jEmplode however the player has sudden lockups whilst playing MP3's, but it continous to play normaly when pushing the "next song" button. (Ofcourse this happens randomly so I don't think this is an issue with the used MP3 files.) -and again re-boot doesn't work as supposed too.

Any suggestions? 2.0 doesn't support 64ram, may I still use it and just don't have the add memory or will it cause trouble? Eg. are those lockups caused by the extra RAM?
Would it be easy to remove those extra RAM (it's on the back of the MB and I can't see how it has been soldered on) Or is that just a stupid notion on my side and I should be slapt of even thinking about solving the problem this way?!


Thanks for your input!

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#300068 - 09/07/2007 11:23 Re: Empeg Mark-II won't connect to Emplode [Re: Roger]
deface
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Registered: 01/07/2007
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I haven't had any problem connecting to Emplode once I switched over to version 2.0 of he firmware, but I'm not sure how it works with the extra ram. Also, when I try to follow the steps here, (I have the "EXT2-fs warning: mounting unchecked fs, running e2fsck is recommended" message), I get an error when I try to run the line "swapon /swapfile" saying that /swapfile is not a valid switch. Is there anything else I can try?

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#300069 - 09/07/2007 15:20 Re: Empeg Mark-II won't connect to Emplode [Re: deface]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
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Loc: Seattle, WA
Quote:
I get an error when I try to run the line "swapon /swapfile" saying that /swapfile is not a valid switch.

Those commands should work precisely as shown. Please make certain that you're not adding or subtracting any spaces or typing the wrong kind of slash or something like that. Make sure all of the prerequisites are met, and all of the commands from the beginning are typed correctly. For example, the commands prior to swapon are "umount" not "unmount" (a common mistake).

You are perfectly welcome to select the commands in your web browser, copy them to the clipboard, and paste them into hyperterminal. That would ensure they get exectuted correctly.

(The converse is not true... if you try and select/copy text from hypterterminal and paste it into a message here, it gets messed up because of a bug in hyperterminal. But pasting commands *into* hyperterminal is fine.)
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#300070 - 09/07/2007 16:56 Re: Empeg Mark-II won't connect to Emplode [Re: tfabris]
mlord
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Quote:
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I get an error when I try to run the line "swapon /swapfile" saying that /swapfile is not a valid switch.

Those commands should work precisely as shown.



It looks like there's no file or link called "swapfile".

The instructions are probably wrong, and should be changed to specify the actual swap partition rather than the file/link name:

swapon /dev/hda3


-ml

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#300071 - 09/07/2007 17:03 Re: Empeg Mark-II won't connect to Emplode [Re: mlord]
tfabris
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Loc: Seattle, WA
It always worked before when I tried it. Why would that have changed?
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#300072 - 09/07/2007 18:32 Re: Empeg Mark-II won't connect to Emplode [Re: mlord]
peter
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It looks like there's no file or link called "swapfile".

If so, that's a big problem. The player itself uses "/swapfile" to turn swap on and off. All firmware installs should have "/swapfile" as a symbolic link to the actual swap device (/dev/hda6, says Roger's guide).

One symptom of the player being unable to turn swap on and off is -- wait for it -- inability to connect to Emplode (or, at best, severe crashiness when connected).

Peter

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#300073 - 09/07/2007 18:37 Re: Empeg Mark-II won't connect to Emplode [Re: peter]
tfabris
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Is it possible that Deface's problem is that the disk never got "built" ?
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#300074 - 09/07/2007 19:14 Re: Empeg Mark-II won't connect to Emplode [Re: tfabris]
peter
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Is it possible that Deface's problem is that the disk never got "built" ?

Well, the disk must be at least mostly "built" if it can play MP3s. I guess it's theoretically possible that the music partition is formatted, but the swap partition isn't mkswap'd.

In fact, now I try it, if you "swapon" a file which exists but which isn't a valid swap partition, you get the error "swapon: /swapfile: Invalid argument", which sounds very like this player's reported error from "swapon". If that's the case, the solution is to type "mkswap /swapfile" at the player's prompt. (You don't have to rw the disks first.)

Peter

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#300075 - 09/07/2007 19:48 Re: Empeg Mark-II won't connect to Emplode [Re: peter]
tfabris
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if you "swapon" a file which exists but which isn't a valid swap partition, you get the error


What might cause *that* to happen?
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#300076 - 09/07/2007 19:58 Re: Empeg Mark-II won't connect to Emplode [Re: tfabris]
wfaulk
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The builder formats each partition separately. Linux needs its swap partitions pre-formatted in some way. It might be that the builder failed to format the swap partition. "/swapfile" is just a "shortcut" to the partition.
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#300077 - 09/07/2007 20:02 Re: Empeg Mark-II won't connect to Emplode [Re: wfaulk]
tfabris
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Okay, back to the original question.

Deface, did you put a new disk drive into the player without running the "builder"?
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#300078 - 10/07/2007 06:15 Re: Empeg Mark-II won't connect to Emplode [Re: tfabris]
peter
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Quote:
Okay, back to the original question.

Deface, did you put a new disk drive into the player without running the "builder"?

Nothing but the bulder formats the music partition. If it can play music, the builder must have run. What we seem to be looking at here is a builder which ran, but then failed before properly initialising the swap. Or a manually-built disk where someone forgot or mistyped the mkswap command.

Peter

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#300079 - 10/07/2007 18:46 Re: Empeg Mark-II won't connect to Emplode [Re: tfabris]
deface
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The disk builder did run, and I didn't reboot my Empeg until the builder had run the stress tests for about 2 hours. I've been away for a couple of days, so when I get home tonight, I'll try those commands again, and I'll post my results.

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#300080 - 11/07/2007 10:13 Re: Empeg Mark-II won't connect to Emplode [Re: deface]
deface
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Ok, I tried running those commands, and the swapon /swapfile command ran successfully. Now, when I get to the fsck -fay /dev/hda4 command, here's the error I see now:


empeg:/empeg/bin# fsck -fay /dev/hda4
Parallelizing fsck version 1.19 (13-Jul-2000)
e2fsck 1.19, 13-Jul-2000 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09
ext2fs_check_if_mount: No such file or directory while determining whether /dev/
hda4 is mounted.
Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
Pass 2: Checking directory structure
Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity
Pass 4: Checking reference counts
Pass 5: Checking group summary informationo room for private writable mapping
n
error: -12
fsck.ext2: Memory allocation failed while retrying to read bitmaps for /dev/hda4

empeg:/empeg/bin#


All the other commands run successfully, and now I'm getting the exact same results every time I try this. What else can I do to fix this?

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#300081 - 11/07/2007 11:16 Re: Empeg Mark-II won't connect to Emplode [Re: deface]
wfaulk
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Run "fdisk -l /dev/hda" and post the output here.
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#300082 - 11/07/2007 20:06 Re: Empeg Mark-II won't connect to Emplode [Re: wfaulk]
deface
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Here's the results:


Disk /dev/hda: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 14593 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hda1 1 5 40131 5 Extended
/dev/hda2 6 10 40162+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda3 11 13 24097+ 10 OPUS
/dev/hda4 14 14593 117113850 83 Linux
/dev/hda5 1 3 24034+ 83 Linux
/dev/hda6 4 5 16033+ 82 Linux swap

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#300083 - 11/07/2007 23:11 Re: Empeg Mark-II won't connect to Emplode [Re: deface]
wfaulk
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Okay, that's about 12MB worth of swap, which sounds about right. After running the swapon command, run "free". (Hopefully it's installed.) It should show you that 12MB of swap space.

What I'm getting at is that running out of memory sounds like a swap-less condition, but you've turned on the swap, so that shouldn't be a problem. But it is, so we need to find out what's wrong with it.
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#300084 - 12/07/2007 04:41 Re: Empeg Mark-II won't connect to Emplode [Re: wfaulk]
Roger
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What I'm getting at is that running out of memory sounds like a swap-less condition, but you've turned on the swap, so that shouldn't be a problem. But it is, so we need to find out what's wrong with it.


If it's really just that it's running out of memory, there's always another 32MB of space that can be used as extra swap in the /dev/hda2 partition...
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#300085 - 12/07/2007 12:31 Re: Empeg Mark-II won't connect to Emplode [Re: Roger]
wfaulk
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Well, "fsck.ext2: Memory allocation failed while retrying to read bitmaps for /dev/hda4" sounds like that to me. He has a single 120GB hard drive, so I don't think he should be running out of memory trying to check that filesystem -- other people have bigger drives and don't have this problem, IIRC -- but I could be wrong.

Edit: GB, not MB


Edited by wfaulk (12/07/2007 12:32)
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#300086 - 12/07/2007 20:07 Re: Empeg Mark-II won't connect to Emplode [Re: wfaulk]
deface
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I tried running the command "free" after the swapon /swapfile line, but I get:

bash: free: command not found

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