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#3512 - 21/12/1999 00:34 Emplode disk space reporting is buggy
bigfrobro
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Registered: 20/11/1999
Posts: 3
After a few nasty crashes with Beta 8A (I've since upgraded) Emplode is reporting that my unit has only 1147 of 5624 mb available with all playlists deleted. Obviously the mp3s uploaded before one (or during each) of the crashes still occupy space on the unit and are hiding from Emplode.

My question is this: Is this problem only fixable via Linux? Cause if so thats a major bummer. For reasons that will go unmentioned I was forced to delete my Linux drive two weeks back. Reinstalling will be a major pain :( I am open to a complete disk wipe if it will solve this problem and if it can be done within the feeble confines of windoze.

I'm holding out hope I can get this problem resolved before my New Years road trip to Vegas.

Bigfro


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#3513 - 21/12/1999 07:38 Re: Emplode disk space reporting is buggy [Re: bigfrobro]
Dearing
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Registered: 22/07/1999
Posts: 453
Loc: Florida
If you have the developer image installed, you should be able to connect a terminal to the player using an emulator like HyperTerminal, although there are much better emulators.

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#3514 - 21/12/1999 13:44 Re: Emplode disk space reporting is buggy [Re: Dearing]
bigfrobro
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Registered: 20/11/1999
Posts: 3
Well here's the whole darn thing...I'm a little worried about line 52, but honestly I'm stumbling around in the dark here. I’ve tried various minor tweaks like deleting the contents of var, even fdisking the whole shebang. No luck. Emplode still only reports about a gig and a half out of 6 as available. I'll keep scouring the boards for clues but I could really use a little handholding at this point :)

Edit: I exported my database out of curiosity and got a LONG list of "tunes". Below is a sample. These seem to be the culprits, now how do i delete them?

"fid","type","length","title","artist","genre","year","comment","source","refs"
16,"playlist","0","empeg-car","","","","","",1
17,"playlist","4764","Unattached items","","","","","",2
19,"tune","3645440","A New Hope","Blink 182","Rock","","","Dude Ranch",2
20,"tune","2772992","Emo","Blink 182","Rock","","","Dude Ranch",2
21,"tune","2734080","Enthused","Blink 182","Rock","","","Dude Ranch",2
22,"tune","5449728","I'm Sorry","Blink 182","Rock","","","Dude Ranch",2
23,"tune","3241984","Josie","Blink 182","Rock","","","Dude Ranch",2
24,"tune","2574336","Lemmings","Blink 182","Rock","","","Dude Ranch",2
25,"tune","2412544","Pathetic","Blink 182","Rock","","","Dude Ranch",2
26,"tune","2709504","Untitled","Blink 182","Rock","","","Dude Ranch",2
27,"tune","2666496","Voyeur","Blink 182","Rock","","","Dude Ranch",2
28,"tune","3190784","Waggy","Blink 182","Rock","","","Dude Ranch",2
29,"tune","2797568","Apple Shampoo","Blink 182","Rock","","","Dude Ranch",2
30,"tune","1669120","Boring","Blink 182","Rock","","","Dude Ranch",2
31,"tune","2689024","Dammit","Blink 182","Rock","","","Dude Ranch",2
32,"tune","2416640","Degenerate","Blink 182","Rock","","","Dude Ranch",2

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1 Clearing 8Mb of RAM...
2 Copying kernel...
3 Calling linux kernel...
4 Uncompressing Linux...done.
5 Now booting the kernel
6 Linux version 2.2.12-rmk1-np12-empeg18 ([email protected]) (gcc 7 vers
7 ion egcs-2.91.66 19990325/philb (egcs-1.1.2 release)) #70 Wed Dec 1 15:53:17 GMT
8 1999
9 NetWinder Floating Point Emulator V0.94.1 (c) 1998 Corel Computer Corp.
10 Command line:
11 Calibrating delay loop... 208.08 BogoMIPS
12 Memory: 7352k/8M available (568k code, 20k reserved, 248k data, 4k init)
13 POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
14 Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
15 Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
16 Starting kswapd v 1.5
17 SA1100 serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled
18 ttyS00 at 0xf8010000 (irq = 15) is a SA1100 UART
19 ttyS01 at 0xf8050000 (irq = 17) is a SA1100 UART
20 ttyS02 at 0xf8030000 (irq = 16) is a SA1100 UART
21 Linux video capture interface: v1.00
22 empeg FM radio driver (Philips).
23 empeg audio driver initialized
24 empeg infra-red support initialised.
25 empeg usb initialised, USBN9602 revision 1
26 empeg display initialised.
27 empeg state support initialised (save to d0004980).
28 empeg RDS driver initialised
29 RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size
30 empeg dual channel IDE
31 Probing primary interface...
32 No drives found, retrying...
33 hda: IBM-DARA-206000, ATA DISK drive
34 No drives found, retrying...
35 No drives found, retrying...
36 Registering drives...
37 ide0 at 0x040-0x047,0x078 on irq 7
38 hda: IBM-DARA-206000, 5729MB w/418kB Cache, CHS=12416/15/63
39 Partition check:
40 hda: hda1 < hda5 hda6 > hda2 hda3 hda4
41 RAMDISK: ext2 filesystem found at block 0
42 RAMDISK: Loading 320 blocks [1 disk] into ram disk... done.
43 VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
44 empeg-pump v0.03 (19980601)
45 Press Ctrl-A to enter pump...VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
46 change_root: old root has d_count=1
47 Trying to unmount old root ... okay
48 Freeing unused kernel memory: 4k initI see this is a developer image!
49 Mounting proc
50 Mounting first music partition
51 Mounting second music partition
52 Tried to mount /drive1 but got error 15
53 Error mounting partitions (possibly already mounted)
54 Remounting first music partition read-only
55 Remounting second music partition read-only
56 No secondary hard disk
57 Press 'q' now to go into development mode. You Have Zero Seconds To ComplùStarti
58 ng player
59 q
60 Restored terminal settings
61 Remounting first music partition read-only
62 Remounting second music partition read-only
63 No secondary hard disk
64 Player exited normally: 0
65 Switching to shell-player loop
66 Starting bash.
67 empeg:/empeg/bin#



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#3515 - 21/12/1999 15:16 Re: Emplode disk space reporting is buggy [Re: bigfrobro]
altman
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Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 3457
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
If you really want to blank the entire disk, you need to get to a shell, erase the contents of /empeg/var *and* /empeg/fids, remount read-only, sync a few times, exit the shell (restarts the player) then connect with the pc software again.

However, your tunes have most likely been put in the unattached items playlist. Does this appear for you in emplode?

Hugo



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#3516 - 21/12/1999 15:26 Re: Emplode disk space reporting is buggy [Re: altman]
bigfrobro
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Registered: 20/11/1999
Posts: 3
Hugo,

No, according to the export file all playlists are empty and the Emplode screen is blank (see my last post for more details). They are listed as type "tune" in no particular playlist. Deleting them I believe will free up the lost disk space, but as I mentioned in the opening access to a Linux shell is a pretty remote possibility at this point. If you haven't already please take a look at my last post and see if any of the info there illuminates the situation.

Bigfro



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#3517 - 21/12/1999 15:48 Re: Emplode disk space reporting is buggy [Re: bigfrobro]
rob
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Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK

Thought I'd mention - if your trip to Vegas is for CES then we'll be there, in the Digital Music Pavillion. Booth 6623 from memory.

Rob



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#3518 - 22/12/1999 01:00 Re: Emplode disk space reporting is buggy [Re: altman]
jester
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Registered: 23/11/1999
Posts: 11
Loc: Sunnyvale, CA
However, your tunes have most likely been put in the unattached items playlist. Does this appear for you in emplode?

FWIW, I had the same problem, really quite identical, and my songs don't show up in the unattached list either. In fact, I can no longer get an unattached list (I tried to force it ;-) and I'm out about 2 gigabytes.

Interestingly enough, I notice that when I do a search (what's that button I hit on the remote? Always get there accidentally, end up being asked for a PIN, hit enter, and up comes a list of songs) I can see all the tunes that I lost that are now occupying the missing 2 gigabytes, but I don't know how to get to them to delete them. They're not on any playlist, I swear.

I second the motion: some handholding would be nice here. I can get to the shell on the developer image via the serial port, but I don't have access to a linux box (other than the empeg, of course ;-)



jester
Sunnyvale, CA
MkI / 20GB / Blue / SN00309
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#3519 - 22/12/1999 05:17 Re: Emplode disk space reporting is buggy [Re: jester]
altman
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Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 3457
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
I think the solution here is to fix the bugs in the empeg software so that these tunes appear in the "unattached" playlist. That way, you (a) don't lose the tunes and (b) the existing software should sort it out.

Search can be got to by pressing "direct ok" on the remote. One press - pin, two - year, three - search by title, four - search by artist, five - search by genre.

Hugo




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#3520 - 22/12/1999 07:27 Re: Emplode disk space reporting is buggy [Re: bigfrobro]
Dearing
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Registered: 22/07/1999
Posts: 453
Loc: Florida
I'm going to Vegas for New Years, too.
It's a shame I'm coming home on the 4th, and the CES starts on the 7th; I would have liked to meet the Empeg team.


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"WAY too happy about having #99."
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#3521 - 22/12/1999 09:03 Re: Emplode disk space reporting is buggy [Re: bigfrobro]
mac
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Registered: 20/05/1999
Posts: 411
Loc: Cambridge, UK
I've modified emplode to export the contents of playlists to CSV in addition to the current output as a debugging aid for solving this problem.

If you'd like to email [email protected] I can send you a copy.

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Mike Crowe
I may not be speaking on behalf of empeg above :-)
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#3522 - 22/12/1999 12:06 Re: Emplode disk space reporting is buggy [Re: Dearing]
altman
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Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 3457
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
We're arriving sometime on the 4th - not sure when though...

Hugo



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