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#42576 - 19/10/2001 01:54 Disk stays spun up
bonzi
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Registered: 13/09/1999
Posts: 2401
Loc: Croatia
It really does (I thought that visuals code leaves the icon on the screen; however, I can really hear disk spinning if I listen through the holes at the top). It does not seem to actually read more often than usually.

Reboot does not cure this (I will see about sync). However, I am positive that I did see it bahaving normally yesterday .

UPDATE: Sync seems to cure it. Go figure...
UPDATE2: Rats! Here it is again! I did several reboots....

Dragi "Bonzi" Raos
Zagreb, Croatia
Q#5196, MkII#80000376, 18GB green

Edited by bonzi on 19/10/01 10:35 AM.

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#42577 - 19/10/2001 02:03 Re: Disk stays spun up [Re: bonzi]
andy
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Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 5914
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
I can confirm that I have seen the disk indicator on for prolonged perdiods as well on my MK1.

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#42578 - 19/10/2001 04:08 Re: Disk stays spun up [Re: bonzi]
tms13
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Registered: 30/07/2001
Posts: 1115
Loc: Lochcarron and Edinburgh
I noticed my disk stayed spinning when I was in tuner mode last night. (I don't have the icon enabled, but the engine was off[1], so I heard it).

[1] Yes, I did spend more time in my driveway than in my house last night!

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#42579 - 19/10/2001 06:27 Re: Disk stays spun up [Re: tms13]
trevorp
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Registered: 08/06/2000
Posts: 144
Loc: Ft Lauderdale, FL
Hmm, I thought I already posted this. Guess I had a brain cramp. Mine stays spun up for long periods as well. Sometimes it goes away, and sometimes not...

I don't have any hard facts on it yet though.

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#42580 - 19/10/2001 07:04 Re: Disk stays spun up [Re: trevorp]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14478
Loc: Canada
Yep, disk is definitely ON much more of the time than with previous releases (contrary to what the release notes say). More worrisome for me is that the disk STAYS ON even after "power off", so I cannot hope for it to spin down before I unplug the home power thingie from the back. Wonder what it does in the car..


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#42581 - 19/10/2001 11:59 Re: Disk stays spun up [Re: mlord]
loren
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Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3826
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
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#42582 - 20/10/2001 04:33 Re: Disk stays spun up [Re: bonzi]
bonzi
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Registered: 13/09/1999
Posts: 2401
Loc: Croatia
Hmm, I think I might begin to see some kind of logic in this: it seems that the disk stays spun up for, say, half an hour after the boot in AC mode, then behaves normally. Could that be on purpose (to minimize number of spin ups/down when the user is likely to play with playlist selections and the unit is stationary, anyway, so shocks, acceleration and attendant gyroscopic forces etc are not the issue)?

(BTW, I did not had a chance to observe that closely when on DC power. Anyone?)

guys@empeg?

Dragi "Bonzi" Raos
Zagreb, Croatia
Q#5196, MkII#80000376, 18GB green
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#42583 - 20/10/2001 13:58 Re: Disk stays spun up [Re: bonzi]
drakino
carpal tunnel

Registered: 08/06/1999
Posts: 7868
(BTW, I did not had a chance to observe that closely when on DC power. Anyone?)

I watched it keep the disks up with not much activity for the entire length of a 4-5min song while eating at a drive-in place for lunch the other day. It definitly happens in the car as well.


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#42584 - 20/10/2001 19:24 Re: Disk stays spun up [Re: bonzi]
mlord
carpal tunnel

Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14478
Loc: Canada
I see similar activity on my Mk2 unit: drives very busy for the first (?) half hour, then they start behaving as expected again (spin up, brief activity, spin down).

Have you guys done the equivalent of "hdparm -S1 /dev/hda" in the player software?



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#42585 - 21/10/2001 00:00 Re: Disk stays spun up [Re: mlord]
bonzi
pooh-bah

Registered: 13/09/1999
Posts: 2401
Loc: Croatia
Hm, this morning the disk did not stay up after reboot. Weird...

Dragi "Bonzi" Raos
Zagreb, Croatia
Q#5196, MkII#80000376, 18GB green
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#42586 - 21/10/2001 02:23 Re: Disk stays spun up [Re: mlord]
altman
carpal tunnel

Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 3457
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
No, we control all the disk spin up/down cycles, along with different backoffs if the drive is being asked to spin up a lot (eg, user skipping tracks regularly).

There does appear to be a bug in 2.00b3 with something though. It wasn't in 2.00b1 that I remember, either...

Hugo



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