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#50707 - 27/12/2001 22:36 Re: Hijack v80: revamped Look'n'Feel [Re: mlord]
hybrid8
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Registered: 12/11/2001
Posts: 7738
Loc: Toronto, CANADA
Oh, it's not that I wanted settings from Hijack moved to the config... It's that based on the other thread, instead of merging things and possibly sacrificing your design (something you shouldn't do, IMO), you might be able to offer people the ability to simply hide what they think they won't be using. Even if the interface to hide certain items is built into the interface of Hijack itself. :)

BTW, you can edit the config.ini remotely and upload it to the empeg, right?

Bruno
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#50708 - 28/12/2001 00:46 Re: Hijack v80: revamped Look'n'Feel [Re: hybrid8]
mtempsch
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Registered: 02/06/2000
Posts: 1996
Loc: Gothenburg, Sweden
BTW, you can edit the config.ini remotely and upload it to the empeg, right?

Right. Or in situ, from the bash prompt, if you have installed an editor on the empeg.

/Michael
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#50709 - 28/12/2001 08:25 Re: Hijack v80: revamped Look'n'Feel [Re: hybrid8]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14483
Loc: Canada
>BTW, you can edit the config.ini remotely and upload it to the empeg, right?

Not today, I can't. There is no way for the consumer image to do this.

And even the developer image requires a lot of work to set it up for this, other than mucking about with sz/rz every time.

A Huge part of the elegance and appeal of Hijack is that it does NOT require any Linux hacking of any kind to install and use. Just a simple kernel download, using simple tools available on both major platforms.

This limits what we can do (to maintain mass appeal), and forces a lot of stuff into the kernel that might otherwise be in userland.

Once I finish getting my kftpd incorporated into Hijack (next week?), this will all change.. anybody with an ftp/web browser can then hack any file on the player with relative ease. And it's really easy to whip up more restrictive front-ends for specific tasks like option-setting and backup/restore.

But it ain't there yet.

Cheers

-ml

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#50710 - 28/12/2001 08:28 Re: Hijack v80: revamped Look'n'Feel [Re: mtempsch]
mlord
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Posts: 14483
Loc: Canada
>>BTW, you can edit the config.ini remotely and upload it to the empeg, right?
>Right. Or in situ, from the bash prompt,
>if you have installed an editor on the empeg

Both of those are impossible for 99% of empeg users, running the standard consumer images. There is no bash prompt. There is no (easy) editor, other than perhaps "cat" (which is what I personally use to write all my code)

Cheers

-ml

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#50711 - 28/12/2001 09:40 Re: Hijack v80: revamped Look'n'Feel [Re: mlord]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31572
Loc: Seattle, WA
Are you saying that this doesn't work on the consumer image? If so, I need to update this FAQ entry.
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#50712 - 28/12/2001 10:12 Re: Hijack v80: revamped Look'n'Feel [Re: tfabris]
mtempsch
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Registered: 02/06/2000
Posts: 1996
Loc: Gothenburg, Sweden
What Mark originally said was:

But config.ini currently REQUIRES Emplode on MS-Windows for modifications, and us Linux folks think that's pretty software-racist. Jemplode isn't currently working on RedHat 7.2, and Emplode doesn't quite run under wine yet (could somebody please fix that!). Emptool doesn't have any obvious way to edit config.ini either.

Or of course the developer version for rz/sz'ing the file, ftp, scp etc or editing in situ.

To the best of my knowledge the edit config.ini via emplode works (I've only used the consumer version when it initially came preloaded on my MkIIa and briefly when trying to debug a snag in my disk shuffling exercise - 3 existing disks, 1 new; 1 MkI and one MkIIa...)

/Michael
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#50713 - 28/12/2001 10:28 Re: Hijack v80: revamped Look'n'Feel [Re: tfabris]
djc
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Registered: 08/08/2000
Posts: 351
Loc: chicago
i think mark meant that there's no way for a non-windows user, like himself, to edit config.ini with the standard consumer image install.

--dan.

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#50714 - 28/12/2001 19:07 Re: Hijack v80: revamped Look'n'Feel [Re: mlord]
hybrid8
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Registered: 12/11/2001
Posts: 7738
Loc: Toronto, CANADA
I think the number of people running the developer image is greater than 1%, but I guess most would be running consumer. I've always run the developer version except when I very first tried 1.03 to make sure the new drive cable was working.

Now with all the drive space I'm thinking of installing a mail and nntp server.

Bruno

Yeah, just kidding about the mail and news. :)
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#50715 - 28/12/2001 19:09 Re: Hijack v80: revamped Look'n'Feel [Re: hybrid8]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14483
Loc: Canada
Myself, I have never yet installed a Developer image..

I'm hoping to use one of my units as an auxiliary NFS server for my website when the latter starts running low on space.. would be better if I had a 60GB unit rather than the 30GB I have on order.. anyone wanna do a swap?

-ml

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#50716 - 29/12/2001 13:37 Re: Hijack v80: revamped Look'n'Feel [Re: tfabris]
bonzi
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Registered: 13/09/1999
Posts: 2401
Loc: Croatia
I think it does, but editing Win registry is not for the faint of heart, either (i.e. for your average Joe the Consumer). (Not that Joes the Consumers are very likely to buy empeg, though ).
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#50717 - 29/12/2001 13:49 Re: Hijack v80: revamped Look'n'Feel [Re: bonzi]
hybrid8
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Registered: 12/11/2001
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Simple to double-click on a reg file to add in the needed keys. I've seen people mess up their systems in all sorts of ways. I wouldn't dream of ever telling these people that Windows even "had" a registry, let alone they could touch it.

I think I first opened regedit a few days after I installed my first Win95 system (that was my first PC :)

Bruno
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#50718 - 29/12/2001 13:55 Re: Hijack v80: revamped Look'n'Feel [Re: hybrid8]
bonzi
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Registered: 13/09/1999
Posts: 2401
Loc: Croatia
Yeah, I forgot one does not have to actually edit the registry (and I am still extra carefull doing that, like checking working directory three times when typing 'rm -rf' while root on Unix ). Ah, I see now there is a link to .reg file. Tony thinks of everything!
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#50719 - 29/12/2001 15:42 Re: Hijack v80: revamped Look'n'Feel [Re: mtempsch]
rjf
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Registered: 30/11/2001
Posts: 84
Loc: Oregon
I believe the issue with JEmplode on RH 7.2 (other than RH 7.2 being broken ), is that RH installs kaffe as the jvm, and personally, I haven't had much luck with it. Better off with the blackdown or the Sun versions of the jre.

I am currently working on a HiJack panel in the Configure Player dialog in JEmplode. I currently have it sync'ing "Use Old Style Menus", so the framework is there, and I will be adding the options for voladj, and other's.

Gimme a week. I also told mlord that I will try to find the issues with kaffe, but that is lower on my list, given that I really don't like kaffe :-)

rjf&

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#50720 - 03/01/2002 14:45 Re: Hijack v80: revamped Look'n'Feel [Re: rjf]
rjf
journeyman

Registered: 30/11/2001
Posts: 84
Loc: Oregon
So, I did a little investigation into why Kaffe isn't able to run JEmplode.

The issue appears to be that it doesn't fully support the 1.2 jvm, and that would be a problem for sure.

If you guys really wanna try out JEmplode (and you should), grab the Sun JRE for Linux

Cheers,
rjf&

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#50721 - 04/01/2002 15:10 Re: Hijack v79: more knob options! [Re: mlord]
grgcombs
addict

Registered: 03/07/2001
Posts: 663
Loc: Dallas, TX
Is there any way you could include some redefinition for the buttons of the Sony Stalk remote? I'd like to see something like that very much.

Great work you're doing so far!!!!

Greg
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#50722 - 04/01/2002 15:14 Re: Hijack v79: more knob options! [Re: grgcombs]
number6
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Registered: 30/04/2001
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Im working on it [or more like trying to get Mark Lord to put a mod into the Kernel so we can start looking into this].

There another thread with this in it.

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#50723 - 04/01/2002 17:10 Re: Hijack v79: more knob options! [Re: number6]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14483
Loc: Canada
If you can figure out where (if at all) the stalk data passes through the kernel, then I will add code to intercept it and allow IR translations on it.

Cheers

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