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#52084 - 27/12/2001 15:15 AMG Wrong?!
bonzi
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Registered: 13/09/1999
Posts: 2401
Loc: Croatia
I, as many of you, rely on All Music Guide to find correct information on album and track names, albums where tunes on compilations originally appeared etc. Today I found disagreement between AMG record for Pink Floyd's The Wall and my copy, Free-CDDB entries and CD-NOW listing. Their listing has 'O.K.' listed as 20th track (after 'Comfortably Numb') and misses the last, 26th, 'Outside the Wall'. I can't find 'O.K.' anywhere in Free-CDDB, and certainly not on my CD.

I just thought I would turn our resident Pink Floyd experts' attention to this little curiosum...
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#52085 - 27/12/2001 15:42 Re: AMG Wrong?! [Re: bonzi]
nester
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Registered: 11/12/2001
Posts: 30
Loc: Louisville, KY, USA
My Copy has the following.. ;)

Disc 1
1. 3:19 In The Flesh?
2. 2:29 The Thin Ice
3. 3:09 Another Brick In The Wall Part 1
4. 1:50 The Happiest Days Of Our Lives
5. 3:59 Another Brick In The Wall Part 2
6. 5:35 Mother
7. 2:47 Goodbye Blue Sky
8. 2:07 Empty Spaces
9. 3:30 Young Lust
10. 3:36 One Of My Turns
11. 4:16 Don't Leave Me Now
12. 1:14 Another Brick In The Wall Part 3
13. 1:16 Goodbye Cruel World

Disc 2
1. 4:41 Hey You
2. 2:39 Is There Anybody Out There
3. 3:24 Nobody Home
4. 1:33 Vera
5. 1:26 Bring The Boys Back Home
6. 6:22 Comfortably Numb
7. 1:35 The Show Must Go On
8. 4:16 In The Flesh?
9. 4:23 Run Like Hell
10. 3:57 Waiting For The Worms
11. 0:29 Stop
12. 5:19 The Trial
13. 1:43 Outside the Wall

FWIW, I'm sure I pulled this data from CDDB (or something similar) when I ripped this, and this track listing comes from the .nfo files that I created... I have the case, but it's at home.


Edited by nester (27/12/2001 15:44)

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#52086 - 27/12/2001 15:50 Re: AMG Wrong?! [Re: bonzi]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
I think I know why this happened.

I think it's a typo by whoever transcribed it into AMG. They were going by the album sleeve, with the sloppy-calligraphy lyric sheet, when they typed into AMG.

If you look at the lyric sheet for Comfortably Numb (JPG Attached), you will see that the line "OK, Just a little pin prick" has the word "OK" on its own line with an underline beneath it. I think the person typing in the titles thought that this was a separate song.



Sacrelige, really, that they wouldn't know Comfortably Numb by heart.


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#52087 - 27/12/2001 15:53 Re: AMG Wrong?! [Re: tfabris]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
And now that I look at it even more closely, it's not even an underline, it's the top of the J below it.

But you have to admit, if you're not looking closely and you don't know the song, you might think that line indicated a new song.
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#52088 - 27/12/2001 15:59 Re: AMG Wrong?! [Re: bonzi]
beaker
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Registered: 19/08/2000
Posts: 588
Loc: England
Hmmm... sounds a bit fishy to me. I don't recognise that track name (O.K.) and I know there's a track called "Outside the Wall" on there. Unfortunately I can't check 'cos I've lent my copy to a friend. I was going to check the timings with those listed on AMG.
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#52089 - 27/12/2001 16:07 Re: AMG Wrong?! [Re: tfabris]
beaker
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Registered: 19/08/2000
Posts: 588
Loc: England
Hey Tony!! How the hell did you sneak those two posts in while I was writing my reply?
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#52090 - 27/12/2001 16:12 Re: AMG Wrong?! [Re: beaker]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
Heh, not only that, but I got the pic of the lyrics including cropping, image processing, uploading, and editing it into the message itself.

I'm just quick, that's all.
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#52091 - 27/12/2001 16:15 Re: AMG Wrong?! [Re: tfabris]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Did you utilize your Christmas gift for that?
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#52092 - 27/12/2001 16:17 Re: AMG Wrong?! [Re: tfabris]
beaker
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Registered: 19/08/2000
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In reply to:

Heh, not only that, but I got the pic of the lyrics including cropping, image processing, uploading, and editing it into the message itself



That's what I mean you must have moved quick to get all that done. Rumour has it that you're just as quick in the bedroom as well .
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#52093 - 27/12/2001 16:17 Re: AMG Wrong?! [Re: wfaulk]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
Yes, that's from the S110. It's a little blurry because I did it in a hurry and it's from the CD version of the lyrics which are printed very very tiny on the page. The entire song, on the page, is only about 3.5 inches tall.
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#52094 - 27/12/2001 16:22 Re: AMG Wrong?! [Re: bonzi]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12318
Loc: Sterling, VA
I've found mistakes on AMG before. They're only human in typos, but superhuman in the amount of info they put up!

Has anyone else noticed that they've started to do song reviews??
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#52095 - 27/12/2001 16:25 Re: AMG Wrong?! [Re: Dignan]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
Yeah, I glanced at their song review of "Comfortably Numb", and the reviewer has it all wrong.
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#52096 - 28/12/2001 01:39 Re: AMG Wrong?! [Re: nester]
bonzi
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Registered: 13/09/1999
Posts: 2401
Loc: Croatia
That would correspond to contents of my CDs, as well (up to few small timing differences - different edition) - so, AMG is wrong on this one...

Thanks
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#52097 - 28/12/2001 01:42 Re: AMG Wrong?! [Re: tfabris]
bonzi
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Registered: 13/09/1999
Posts: 2401
Loc: Croatia
You never cease amazing me, Mr. Holmes!

Thanks!

(Actually, Marcus is right: the speed with which this little investigation has been conducted is even more amazing then the investigation itself!)


Edited by bonzi (28/12/2001 01:44)
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#52098 - 28/12/2001 06:42 Re: AMG Wrong?! [Re: bonzi]
Ezekiel
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Registered: 25/08/2000
Posts: 2413
Loc: NH USA
It's not really that suprizing, for you see Tony IS Santa Claus and as such can move with almost infinite speed delivering posts to all the good boys and girls all over the world...

-Zeke
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#52099 - 28/12/2001 10:03 Re: AMG Wrong?! [Re: Ezekiel]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
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