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Oh boy, will they EVER learn?

An I bet the next step will be asking $25 - $30 for a Cd to make up for all the losses that CD copying caused.

Yeah, that will solve it !

Next they'll be blaming the consumer for purchasing a cd-player that doesn't play their cds! Kind of bass-ackwards isn't it.

If I understood rightly here in Germany they are going to put a special tax/fee/whatever onto the price of blank CDs to cover the fact that my might burn pirate music onto it. Rude or what!

If I understood rightly here in Germany they are going to put a special tax/fee/whatever onto the price of blank CDs to cover the fact that my might burn pirate music onto it.

I don't know about Germany, but they have been doing that here in the US for TEN FUCKING YEARS so I don't see where the anus at that record company gets off on saying blank CDs steal revenues. WHAT THE FUCK WAS THE AHRA TAX FOR YOU ASSHOLE?!?!?

Note that my explosive rant was directed at the OTHER article on the same topic elsewhere on this BBS where it quoted the EMI record person discussing how there are more blanks sold than regular albums.

(Didn't double check which thread I was replying to. )

Yeah, curious how they "conveniently" manage to ignore the fact that a lot of people use CD-Rs to do their backups, or was the use of a brain not one of the pre-requisites for the job?

I for one don't really care if they lift a tax on blank CD-R's. They have been doing that since cassette tapes.

But then they should also stop whining how CD-R's kill their industry. I'm not syaing they actually are making a profit from this tax (if they're lucky they break even), but I do know that the loss of income for the music industry has probably to do a lot more with the tragedy of 9/11 and the following worldwide economical downwards spiral than copying does. Cd's and music are still luxury products (they should know because they tax them like it) and in times of economical recession, luxury items are the first things that people stop from buying.
Anybody with half a brain will tell you that. Too bad that even those with half a brain are considered too smart to be working for the recording industry.

...I do know that the loss of income for the music industry has probably to do a lot more with the tragedy of 9/11 and the following worldwide economical downwards spiral than copying does

Nah in my case it's just the crappy music they've been putting out that reduced my CD purchases by 100% in the last few years. I honestly haven't bought a new release CD or heard any music I care to try to find lately. I've been buying CDs of things I used to own on vinyl or cassette. Where's my compensation for having to buy 2 formats of the same music?

Nah in my case it's just the crappy music they've been putting out

oh yeah...that too of course.
It's the same here. I used to buy several CD's a month. I don't know If I even buy ONE a month nowadays... (and I rarely download tracks of the net, so that can't be it)

I've noticed that over the last six months or so, the quality of music, even if you still have to search for it, has picked up quite a bit.

Nah in my case it's just the crappy music they've been putting out...

Well, Duh! Of course it's crappy music -- all you pirates out there with your blank CDRs have been stealing the music companies blind, to the point where they can no longer afford to hire decent musicians and pay for high quality studio time. Those poor musicians are all starving to death, probably had to sell their guitars and drums in order to by shoes for their children -- and all because you guys are buying CDRs and pirating their music. For shame! How do you guys even sleep at night?



tanstaafl.

For me, there's an economic basis for reducing my purchases of CDs... while I've been enjoying my 1000+ CD collection on my Empeg, over the past two years I've been shifting more of my entertainment budget towards purchasing movies and video series on DVD. Y'know, to finally get Cosmos and The Young Ones on my shelf.

I still buy CD's, but my need for latest-chart-hits has been replaced with fewer, must-have albums -- after I've grown attached to a few singles on my NPR affiliate or other webcast stations I listen to. (I seem to be purchasing more Luaka Bop recordings these days...)

Shame on you, music publishers, for pushing overpriced albums and not building a viable distribution channel for music singles... what goes around comes around, no?

Not to mention, once you toss in TiVo, niche-y cable TV channels, technical books from Amazon, RSS news feeds every morning, etc. -- in a nutshell, my attention-span budget is stretched tighter than it ever was before.

So forgive me, RIAA, for not lining your pockets quite the way I did in the past. (Keep working on digital distribution of singles, however, if you really want to earn more of my entertainment dollar.)

One thing's for sure: if you keep pursuing DRM-only schemes that make it difficult for me to enjoy my music on devices of my choice, you can bet I'll be buying even less of your product -- and others (read: indie musicians) will likely be happy to fill the gap. Ciao...

Well fuckin' said, man.

tanstaafl: Ha, who needs to listen to crappy artists on major labels when there are millions of indie labels putting out more great raw tallent each year than the major labels have ever seen in their entire history. Nirvana wasn't a creation of the major labels. Neither are equally talented bands like Jawbox (Dischord Records), Sunny Day Real Estate (Sub Pop?), Velocity Girl (Sub Pop, second in sales to Nirvana when they released Bleach), and all the folk bands out there on all their garage labels selling CD's at shows to make a living.

lax: Word, F the DRM! Let the indie's fill in the roll. If they don't pay for the DRM-protocol licensing, then their CDs will be cheaper AND they can play on our devices.

davec: Check my thread in Off Topic.