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#32164 - 06/06/2001 03:00 v1.03-beta4 Released
rob
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Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
More tuner functionality and lots of bug fixes.

Available now from The Usual Place.

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#32165 - 06/06/2001 04:49 Re: v1.03-beta4 Released [Re: rob]
teemcbee
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Registered: 04/02/2000
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What should I do with all the tuner functionallity without having a tuner

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#32166 - 06/06/2001 06:05 Re: v1.03-beta4 Released [Re: teemcbee]
Derek
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Registered: 16/08/1999
Posts: 453
Loc: NRW, Germany
Buy my MK 1. Then you'll have one :-)

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#32167 - 06/06/2001 07:03 Re: v1.03-beta4 Released [Re: rob]
Dredd
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Registered: 12/11/1999
Posts: 261
Loc: Bay Area, California
Looks like the Rio-branded remote is quite useful in the 1.03 code... will it be possible for people who have Tuners coming to also get Rio remotes, so we don't have to learn-one-way-then-immediately-learn-a-new-way?

D
(who thinks maybe even considering giving remotes to the Mk.II folks who've been waiting a year for their free tuner upgrades might be a nice customer service apologetic gesture... but I also don't know how much the things cost, either...)


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#32168 - 06/06/2001 07:29 Re: v1.03-beta4 Released [Re: Dredd]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12318
Loc: Sterling, VA
The original remote costs about $25 ($30 after shipping from there), and considering it's all nice and relabled for Rio, I don't know how much that would be. Just to give you an idea.

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#32169 - 06/06/2001 10:10 Re: v1.03-beta4 Released [Re: Dredd]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31578
Loc: Seattle, WA
Looks like the Rio-branded remote is quite useful in the 1.03 code...

I'm pretty sure that you can do all the same things with the Kenwood remote that you can do with the Rio remote. I checked it when I got one of the early 1.03 betas, and made sure you could do everything necessary (naming presets, tuning, etc.).

Haven't checked the Kenwood remote with 1.03 Beta 4 yet. I should...

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#32170 - 06/06/2001 10:19 Re: v1.03-beta4 Released [Re: tfabris]
Dredd
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Registered: 12/11/1999
Posts: 261
Loc: Bay Area, California
Well, let me clarify that entering numbers is actually enough that I'd actually USE the remote from time to time (I've never used my remote on my empeg ever actually)... so if I'm going to learn and get accustomed to a remote on 1.03 to make tuning easier, I'd rather learn "once" on a Rio remote, than get accustomed to the old remote and then end up doing the whole "glance down at the remote learning curve" thing again later on. :)

But again, I have no idea what the Rio remote costs are, or if there is sufficient availability for them to be made available.

D


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#32171 - 06/06/2001 11:10 Re: v1.03-beta4 Released [Re: tfabris]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12318
Loc: Sterling, VA
Sorry if this has been explained somewhere, but I'd like to know and I don't have the ability to download the new software at this time.

Is it possible to use the dial to scan the tuner? That would be very useful. It would be nice to just be able to depress the knob and be able to tune from it instead of having to use the buttons. Plus, it would give the knob some actual functionality, which honestly, it doesn't have at the moment.

Just curious.

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#32172 - 06/06/2001 14:32 Re: v1.03-beta4 Released [Re: rob]
rockstar
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Registered: 24/11/2000
Posts: 316
ahhh, rob, STOP TEASING.. we NEED the tuner@@!!

:D :D :D


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#32173 - 07/06/2001 00:42 Re: v1.03-beta4 Released [Re: Dredd]
rob
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Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
I believe the Rio remote will cost about the same as the Kenwood version, and will be available as an accessory as soon as our stock turns up from the overseas manufacturer. Last I heard that could take a few weeks more. Hopefully it will coincide with the tuner.

Rob



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#32174 - 07/06/2001 10:09 Re: v1.03-beta4 Released [Re: rob]
ClemsonJeep
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Registered: 09/11/1999
Posts: 398
Loc: Ashburn, VA
Er, isn't the "RIO Remote" just the Kenwood remote with a RIO overlay on it with the actual buttom labels making sense?

Or has the remote been completely redesigned and created just for the RIO Car? Did I miss this post somewhere? :)

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#32175 - 07/06/2001 10:13 Re: v1.03-beta4 Released [Re: ClemsonJeep]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31578
Loc: Seattle, WA
Or has the remote been completely redesigned and created just for the RIO Car? Did I miss this post somewhere?

Yeah, you missed a bunch of posts.

The Rio remote has a different button layout, and uses a completely different set of IR codes. Instead of using Kenwood codes, it uses codes that are proprietary to the empeg/Rio Car. So it won't interfere with, say, Kenwood head units.

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#32176 - 07/06/2001 10:17 Re: v1.03-beta4 Released [Re: tfabris]
drakino
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Registered: 08/06/1999
Posts: 7868
And the Rio remote has push and hold features, something I thought the Kenwood one couldn't support.

Most of them will only be useful once 1.1 comes out.


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#32177 - 07/06/2001 18:14 Re: v1.03-beta4 Released [Re: tfabris]
jwickis
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Registered: 24/08/2000
Posts: 658
Loc: India
Instead of using Kenwood codes, it uses codes that are proprietary to the empeg/Rio Car.
But it will support both remotes in future software revisions right? I have a Kenwood steering remote RC-700 that I won't/hate to part with, has everything I need for just listening to a complete playlist Vol Next/Prev Track Play/Pause Up/Down-tuning,or FFWD/FRWD.

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#32178 - 07/06/2001 23:18 Re: v1.03-beta4 Released [Re: Dredd]
time
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Registered: 20/11/2000
Posts: 279
Loc: Pacific Northwest
Wow D, I'm stunned to hear that you've had the product a while and don't use the remote.

Initially, when I learned the UI (about 6 months ago now) I thought, "Hmph, why would I need a remote for something that is easily within my reach?!?" BUT the more I use it the happier I am with the power that lies within!

To most of you this may be old hat (yes guys, I know, I should have read it in the manual somewhere...) but I just found this feature and am really keen on how it works:

Most frequently, I use the player in what I call "Personal Radio Mode" (aka, full shuffle, three clicks down...) and the remote has been a convenient way to leave my hand where it is (on the wheel or beside me) and skip tracks that I don't care to hear right then. Well, while a track I like is playing pressing the 2 key (sub-labled Artist on the Rio remotes) automatically finds another song by the same artist and stuffs it next into the rotation. Multiple presses sort in more and more by that same artist in. The other categories do similar functions swap functions.

Now I can find, add-in, and skip all my spoken stuff without waiting until 1.1's filters come out!!

Also, I will say I've used the Kenwood and the Rio remotes with 1.03b4 and both work with much the same functionality save what has been described on this thread. Also, the remote is handy (essential) for titling the Tuner presets when RDS is not present on that station to fill the information in...

The learning between the two isn't too challenging most functions are in a similar place--especially since the Rio version has everything labeled.

Best regards,
Tim


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#32179 - 08/06/2001 00:45 Re: v1.03-beta4 Released [Re: jwickis]
rob
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Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
There is an option in emplode to disable the Kenwood remote (for those with a Kenwood head unit) but by default it will continue to work as always.

Rob



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#32180 - 08/06/2001 00:46 Re: v1.03-beta4 Released [Re: ClemsonJeep]
rob
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Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
Or has the remote been completely redesigned and created just for the RIO Car?

The remote has been completely redesigned and created just for the Rio Car

Rob



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#32181 - 08/06/2001 09:31 Re: v1.03-beta4 Released [Re: tfabris]
ClemsonJeep
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Registered: 09/11/1999
Posts: 398
Loc: Ashburn, VA
The Rio remote has a different button layout, and uses a completely different set of IR codes. Instead of using Kenwood codes, it uses codes that are proprietary to the empeg/Rio Car. So it won't interfere with, say, Kenwood head units.

Hmm, interesting. Wonder how I missed this. Have there been any links posted of pictures of the Rio Remote? I recall seeing one, but again it was just a kenwood remote with the RIO (or empeg) logo on it instead of the Kenwood logo.

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#32182 - 08/06/2001 11:31 Re: v1.03-beta4 Released [Re: ClemsonJeep]
loren
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Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3826
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
here is the pic of the empeg car remote from the first Amersfoot meet (wow, it's been that long eh?). AFAIK, that's what the new remote looks like. The button layout is actually different from the Kenwoods if you look closely. Some functions have moved around. i can't get to that other link from the rio store that was around a while back, but i think it had the same layout, just with a rio branding... correct me if i'm wrong guys.


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#32183 - 08/06/2001 15:00 Re: v1.03-beta4 Released [Re: time]
srhodes
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Registered: 30/01/2000
Posts: 262
Loc: Derbyshire, UK
Well, while a track I like is playing pressing the 2 key automatically finds another song by the same artist and stuffs it next into the rotation


AMAZING. Everytime I look at this bulletin board I find shortcuts that I never knew existed. I MUST re-read my manual cuz there is stuff here that I have been hoping gets incorporated and IT'S ALREADY THERE. The best one I found recently was pressing the 0 on the remote to play the next track on a source/album. This was on a personal wishlist that I thought wouldn't happen. I LURVE MY EMPEG.

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#32184 - 08/06/2001 17:28 Re: v1.03-beta4 Released [Re: srhodes]
loren
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Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3826
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
Debauch... what happened to the web site with the remote button functions all charted out?!

it was here: http://www.debau.ch/empeg/remotebuttons/


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#32185 - 09/06/2001 05:47 Re: v1.03-beta4 Released [Re: loren]
fsteele
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Registered: 01/06/2000
Posts: 9
Loc: Atlanta, GA, US
And attached is a picture of the final Rio remote, which came with my Mk-2a, which arrived Thursday. :-)



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#32186 - 09/06/2001 07:48 Re: v1.03-beta4 Released [Re: loren]
muzza
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Registered: 21/07/1999
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awwwww!

no stun|kill!!!!!

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#32187 - 09/06/2001 10:00 Re: v1.03-beta4 Released [Re: fsteele]
SuperQ
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Registered: 13/06/2000
Posts: 429
Loc: Berlin, DE
oh... cool.

which version of the player software came on your player?

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#32188 - 09/06/2001 11:04 Re: v1.03-beta4 Released [Re: SuperQ]
fsteele
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Registered: 01/06/2000
Posts: 9
Loc: Atlanta, GA, US
It's 1.02....Post about my experience going from an empeg-wanter (registration 1430) to an empeg-owner to follow in a few days....


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#32189 - 09/06/2001 22:10 Re: v1.03-beta4 Released [Re: loren]
ClemsonJeep
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Registered: 09/11/1999
Posts: 398
Loc: Ashburn, VA
Ahh, OK. I do remember seeing this picture, but since the controller had the same amount of buttons and in relatively the same shape as the Kenwood, I assumed it was just a Kenwood with a different front overlay on it. Looking at it in depth now it does look a tad bit different in shape.

Thanks for the link.

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#32190 - 09/06/2001 22:10 Re: v1.03-beta4 Released [Re: rob]
jwickis
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Registered: 24/08/2000
Posts: 658
Loc: India
Thanks, I really didn't think it would be abandoned or removed, for the original empeg car owners would have to switch remotes, it was kinda of a dumb ? of me.

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#32191 - 09/06/2001 22:21 Re: v1.03-beta4 Released [Re: loren]
jwickis
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Registered: 24/08/2000
Posts: 658
Loc: India
Too bad the remote doesn't have some of that limelite type nightlight stuff too highlight the labels, at night it's a feeling type thing, which I've become quite good at but still can't remember what all the shortcuts are or second functions.

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#32192 - 09/06/2001 23:39 Re: v1.03-beta4 Released [Re: fsteele]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31578
Loc: Seattle, WA
Cool, put your post in "reviews", we haven't had a post there in a while.

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