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#335347 - 23/07/2010 23:01 Swype
JeffS
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Registered: 14/01/2002
Posts: 2858
Loc: Atlanta, GA
Two of my coworkers just got the Droid X, and I have to tell you- the Swype feature makes me completely jealous. From everything I can tell, it's a huge upgrade over the typical virtual keypad experience.

So here's my question- what are the odds this ever gets implemented on the iPhone? And by implemented, I mean directly into the key pad (not something where you have to copy and paste text).

Swype says they are working on a version for the iPhone, but my guess is it isn't going to happen due to the integration needs. Do you think Apple will come out with something similar, or will that be admitting that their much touted keypad experience is lacking? To be sure, I've enjoyed the interface on the iPhone, but Swype looks to be even better.
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#335348 - 24/07/2010 00:40 Re: Swype [Re: JeffS]
hybrid8
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Registered: 12/11/2001
Posts: 7738
Loc: Toronto, CANADA
I'm pretty sure it can be approved for iOS4. There's new support for custom keyboards in the new SDKs. Just this past week another keyboard went into approval. Not sure it it was approved yet or not as I didn't pay close enough attention to the story about it.
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#335349 - 24/07/2010 01:04 Re: Swype [Re: hybrid8]
RobotCaleb
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Registered: 15/01/2002
Posts: 1866
Loc: Austin
Swype is truly awesome.

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#335350 - 24/07/2010 01:09 Re: Swype [Re: hybrid8]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12318
Loc: Sterling, VA
I don't see why it couldn't work on the iPhone. The only question is whether it will get approved. That part seems to be up to the whim of whatever person at Apple gets the app in front of them on a given day.

But they seem to be getting better at letting apps in the store. They still have gaffes now and then, but it seems like they're easing up a bit. I never thought Opera would get in, for example. Perhaps they feel more pressure to let big-profile apps like Opera and Swype into the store?

I've been using Swype for about a month, and while I like it quite a bit, I'm still getting used to it. It's funny, but what I've found myself doing is typing on the Swype keyboard one letter at a time for shorter words, and then using Swype for longer words. I think the main problem is that I'm just not very accurate, so when I'm typing short words there are more possibilities for what that word might be. But longer words have more distinct patterns, and Swype seems to get those about 99% of the time.

I also want to try out another new keyboard that was released recently called Swiftkey.
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#335368 - 25/07/2010 02:18 Re: Swype [Re: Dignan]
Shonky
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Registered: 12/01/2002
Posts: 2009
Loc: Brisbane, Australia
I use Swype on my HD2 (Windows Mobile 6.5) and it is pretty good. However I do find I have to think ahead a bit more to get the spelling right so I can start my run around the keyboard. If you pause part way through it tends to take that as a double letter. Like Matt, two or three letter words often get done as taps.

It's also a bit more tricky to operate whilst moving (walking etc) although in those cases I probably shouldn't be trying to type something on my phone.


Edited by Shonky (25/07/2010 02:19)
Edit Reason: should != shouldn't
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#335369 - 25/07/2010 03:56 Re: Swype [Re: Shonky]
RobotCaleb
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Registered: 15/01/2002
Posts: 1866
Loc: Austin
Try not caring so much about accuracy. I'm always happy when I know I screwed up a word (usually by hitting the inner portion twice. That is, for the word "encourage" I'd probably end up doing the "our" twice.

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#335372 - 25/07/2010 13:01 Re: Swype [Re: RobotCaleb]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12318
Loc: Sterling, VA
Originally Posted By: RobotCaleb
Try not caring so much about accuracy. I'm always happy when I know I screwed up a word (usually by hitting the inner portion twice. That is, for the word "encourage" I'd probably end up doing the "our" twice.

The problem with not worrying about accuracy is that, like I said, it works for long words but short words often share "shapes" with other short words. I find that you can't be inaccurate about most short words. I can't think of any examples at the moment, but this has definitely been my experience.
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#335440 - 27/07/2010 02:14 Re: Swype [Re: Dignan]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12318
Loc: Sterling, VA
Hmm...I'm starting to think that BlindType might be the next great thing...
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#335449 - 27/07/2010 06:42 Re: Swype [Re: Dignan]
dionysus
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Registered: 16/06/1999
Posts: 1222
Loc: San Francisco, CA
I've been forced to use swiftkey as for some reason my (legally obtained) beta for swype thinks it's pirated.. (probably from me switching roms so often)

I don't like it.. I want my swype back.. it still beats the stock keyboards though. (this is on the evo 4g btw)
-mark


Edited by dionysus (27/07/2010 06:42)
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#335454 - 27/07/2010 10:59 Re: Swype [Re: dionysus]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Try SlideIT. It's on the market.
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#335456 - 27/07/2010 11:44 Re: Swype [Re: wfaulk]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12318
Loc: Sterling, VA
There was also a keyboard called Shapewriter that I think was the same idea as Swype. I can't remember if it was on the market or not...
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#335467 - 27/07/2010 14:32 Re: Swype [Re: Dignan]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31578
Loc: Seattle, WA
Originally Posted By: Dignan
Hmm...I'm starting to think that BlindType might be the next great thing...


Dude that is amazing. I want to try it.
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#335469 - 27/07/2010 14:45 Re: Swype [Re: tfabris]
dionysus
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Registered: 16/06/1999
Posts: 1222
Loc: San Francisco, CA
slideit and shapewriter don't work nearly as well as swype..

Blindtype has potential.. but we'll see..

-mark
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#335471 - 27/07/2010 15:45 Re: Swype [Re: JeffS]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
I figured I'd try Swype out again, but it seems it's no longer available. Anyone have their APK lying around?

I deleted it before because I seemed to be a spaz and was unable to spell things properly when "typing" that way, but I'll give it another shot.
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#335472 - 27/07/2010 15:53 Re: Swype [Re: wfaulk]
RobotCaleb
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Registered: 15/01/2002
Posts: 1866
Loc: Austin
You have to apply for the beta. The leaked version expired some time ago.

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#335475 - 27/07/2010 16:41 Re: Swype [Re: RobotCaleb]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
The beta program has expired; they're not accepting any more requests, apparently.

I also just realized that it's over 10MB installed. At least the old (expired) version I found was. Which made it, by far, the largest app on my phone. Which may explain why I deleted it.
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#335476 - 27/07/2010 16:45 Re: Swype [Re: wfaulk]
RobotCaleb
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Registered: 15/01/2002
Posts: 1866
Loc: Austin
4.71MB for Swype
116KB for Swype Installer.

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#336032 - 12/08/2010 00:03 Re: Swype [Re: RobotCaleb]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12318
Loc: Sterling, VA
I had to do a factory reset on my phone a couple days ago, and I was left with no more Swype (I don't think I can get it back because I don't have the apk for the trial). I hate to admit it, but I'm not sure I miss it all that much.

I'm sure that for some people it's much faster, but I just couldn't get it down. Short words were too inaccurate, and long words, frankly, took too long! I'd forgotten how much I like the suggestions you get on the stock Android keyboard, where I can type the first four letters of a nine letter word, and select the word from several suggestions just above the keyboard. This means that it's taking me five taps to get a nine letter word, where on Swype I would still have to swipe through all nine letters. I think the outcome is slightly slower for me. Plus, I was surprised that in several instances, I ended up with the wrong word even though it was a long one, and that really made me far slower.

I think I'm still waiting for Blindtype at this point. That looks really exciting.
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#337815 - 02/10/2010 11:03 Re: Swype [Re: Dignan]
hybrid8
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Registered: 12/11/2001
Posts: 7738
Loc: Toronto, CANADA
Google has just acquired Blindtype. Smart move.
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