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#198358 - 14/01/2004 16:17 She should be glad she got off so easy.
JBjorgen
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Registered: 19/01/2002
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Loc: Columbus, OH
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#198359 - 14/01/2004 16:48 Re: She should be glad she got off so easy. [Re: JBjorgen]
genixia
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Registered: 08/02/2002
Posts: 3411
I'd be inclined to agree. I think that she should shut up and appreciate just how lenient the sentence is.
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#198360 - 14/01/2004 16:49 Re: She should be glad she got off so easy. [Re: JBjorgen]
mschrag
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Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
I saw this on Yahoo Most Emailed ... I can't believe it. I'm hoping I'm not seeing some of the details of this case, because as it's written on Yahoo, this person should be in prison. Drinking, getting in a car, and killing people shouldn't be a three strikes and you're out. People who decide to drink and drive infuriate me. If you want to kill yourself, that's cool -- go for it, but when you're risking my life at the same time, that's unacceptable.

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#198361 - 15/01/2004 07:31 Re: She should be glad she got off so easy. [Re: JBjorgen]
Cybjorg
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Registered: 23/12/2002
Posts: 652
Loc: Winston Salem, NC
Personally, I think they should print "Second Degree Manslaughter" in big, bold, red letters on her driver's license. That way, it would haunt her every time ID verification was required.


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#198362 - 15/01/2004 11:24 Re: She should be glad she got off so easy. [Re: Cybjorg]
genixia
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Registered: 08/02/2002
Posts: 3411
Hmm. printing "Drunk Driver" on her license would also be a proactive measure to take.
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#198363 - 15/01/2004 13:12 Re: She should be glad she got off so easy. [Re: genixia]
davec
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Registered: 18/08/2000
Posts: 992
Loc: Georgetown, TX USA
I think that was done sonewhere once and they (the convicted individual) whined until the ACLU stepped in and got a higher court to overturn that particular part of the punishment as too harsh of a penalty... I recall some other situation like that with the license plates on the car as well.
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#198364 - 15/01/2004 13:47 Re: She should be glad she got off so easy. [Re: davec]
cushman
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Registered: 21/01/2002
Posts: 1380
Loc: Erie, CO
The drunken driver plates are here in Ohio. They have existed for many years, but are only used in the most severe cases and have to be reccommended by a judge. At the beginning of the year they became mandatory because of a mistake in a new law, but I think they've fixed the mistake now.
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#198365 - 15/01/2004 15:58 Re: She should be glad she got off so easy. [Re: davec]
DLF
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Registered: 24/07/2003
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Loc: Colorado, N.A.
Perfect example of the kind of thing that gives the ACLU a bad rep. Driving is a privilege, not a right. So I'd think that a judge (after due process) could restrict/amend and/or print on the physical license document ANY OLD DAMNED THING.

Whiners.
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#198366 - 15/01/2004 16:10 Re: She should be glad she got off so easy. [Re: DLF]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
It could easily be construed as ``cruel and unusual punishment''. If he wanted to revoke her driving privileges, that would be fine. But branding someone is bad form, at least.
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#198367 - 15/01/2004 16:20 Re: She should be glad she got off so easy. [Re: wfaulk]
DLF
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Registered: 24/07/2003
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Loc: Colorado, N.A.
Oops, we disagree again Bitt.

He's "branding her" not on her physical person, but on a document she doesn't have either a Constitutional nor a Divine right to possess in the first place. If she doesn't like it, she's not forced to have, carry or show it to anybody.
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#198368 - 16/01/2004 02:45 Re: She should be glad she got off so easy. [Re: DLF]
Roger
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Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5682
Loc: London, UK
Yeah, doesn't strike me as cruel -- she just killed someone for fsck's sake. And if more judges did it, then it wouldn't be unusual.
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#198369 - 16/01/2004 12:30 Re: She should be glad she got off so easy. [Re: wfaulk]
ashmoore
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Registered: 24/08/1999
Posts: 564
Loc: TX
would it be illegal to hire somebody to parade outside the drunks house or place of work with a great big placard "This person killed my son while driving drunk"??

That would be my personal preference.
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#198370 - 16/01/2004 12:52 Re: She should be glad she got off so easy. [Re: ashmoore]
davec
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Registered: 18/08/2000
Posts: 992
Loc: Georgetown, TX USA
would it be illegal to hire somebody to parade outside the drunks house or place of work with a great big placard

Probably would be. You'd be surprised (or not) at what rights the criminal/offender has. I won a Small claims suit against a former roommate and found out (not thru any charges) that my monthly memo to him reminding him of the debt is considered harassment in Texas... Short of putting a lien on real property, I have no other recourse.
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