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#261654 - 28/07/2005 02:52 earl?
gbeer
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I heard several coworkers today say "earl" meaning URL. Is this becoming common?
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#261655 - 28/07/2005 02:54 Re: earl? [Re: gbeer]
msaeger
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I haven't heard that one yet. I always get to hear dub dub dub.
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#261656 - 28/07/2005 04:32 Re: earl? [Re: gbeer]
tfabris
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I've heard it, but I don't think it could be considered common.

I had a friend once who referred to .EXE files as "eeks" files. I always thought that was extremely cute. He was a tech person, not some computer-illiterate, and I think he knew this was his own personal thing and it wasn't common usage. But I thought it was a neat way to save syllables.
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#261657 - 28/07/2005 04:40 Re: earl? [Re: gbeer]
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I heard about it here. Obviously if this guy is annoyed with it, I'd blow off your co-workers as being morons.

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#261658 - 28/07/2005 05:34 Re: earl? [Re: Cybjorg]
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Instead of dub dub dub, two I have heard recently are wubbly wubbly wubbly and the three bums (works if you draw it)

Both made me smile
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#261659 - 28/07/2005 09:09 Re: earl? [Re: tfabris]
Shonky
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I had a friend once who referred to .EXE files as "eeks" files. I always thought that was extremely cute. He was a tech person, not some computer-illiterate, and I think he knew this was his own personal thing and it wasn't common usage. But I thought it was a neat way to save syllables.


I call them "exys" and I use "earl" although probably not 100% of the time. And I'm a tech person.

Another one I use is for unprintable/unpronouncable characters - "gwargers". Don't know how to spell it...
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#261660 - 28/07/2005 12:05 Re: earl? [Re: gbeer]
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Registered: 30/10/2000
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I have been saying "earl" for URL for years. Most people I know say it like that.
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#261661 - 28/07/2005 12:11 Re: earl? [Re: robricc]
andy
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This is the first time I have every heard of URL being pronounced "earl". Everyone I have ever heard say it out loud has said "u-r-l".
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#261662 - 28/07/2005 12:16 Re: earl? [Re: andy]
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U-R-L and E-X-E

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#261663 - 28/07/2005 12:45 Re: earl? [Re: RobotCaleb]
robricc
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I say E-X-E for .exe files.
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#261664 - 28/07/2005 12:56 Re: earl? [Re: robricc]
frog51
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I say U-R-L but also Exy

so inconsistent
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#261665 - 28/07/2005 13:20 Re: earl? [Re: frog51]
wfaulk
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I say U-R-L and have a real OS.
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#261666 - 28/07/2005 15:42 Re: earl? [Re: wfaulk]
Robotic
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I avoid the URL/earl debate entirely- I say "web address".
Not a savings of sylables, but then again there's no shortage to worry about.
I love to be VERBOSE!
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#261667 - 28/07/2005 20:33 Re: earl? [Re: Robotic]
furtive
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I'm and erl and exy man. Always have been.
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#261668 - 28/07/2005 20:49 Re: earl? [Re: furtive]
JeffS
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U-R-L and E-X-E
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#261669 - 29/07/2005 00:44 Re: earl? [Re: JeffS]
Dignan
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Ditto, U-R-L and E-X-E. I don't usually like to shorten things. I tend not to say WWW anyway, since if you don't it's usually implied as a default (or not even needed sometimes).
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#261670 - 29/07/2005 01:06 Re: earl? [Re: Dignan]
jimhogan
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I mostly don't shorten. "Sequel" for S-Q-L still gives me the creeps. 'Course, I have taken to using "dub-dub-dub" and I have been genuinely surprised that many folks don't employ the phonetic "fak" for F-A-Q. I hate spelling that one out.
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#261671 - 29/07/2005 01:49 Re: earl? [Re: jimhogan]
JeffS
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I mostly don't shorten. "Sequel" for S-Q-L still gives me the creeps. . . I have been genuinely surprised that man folks don't employ the phonetic "fak" for F-A-Q. I hate spelling that one out.
Heh, "Sequel" and "F-A-Q" here. Consistency rules!
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#261672 - 29/07/2005 05:47 Re: earl? [Re: jimhogan]
Roger
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"Sequel" for S-Q-L still gives me the creeps.


I once knew a guy that pronounced it "squirrel". Makes some kind of sense: "Structured QueRy Language".
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#261673 - 29/07/2005 07:48 Re: earl? [Re: Roger]
andy
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I once knew a guy that pronounced it "squirrel". Makes some kind of sense: "Structured QueRy Language".


Eryl insists on pronoucing it squiggle and she refers to the interweb (which I quite like).
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#261674 - 29/07/2005 08:10 Re: earl? [Re: Roger]
David
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I once knew a guy that pronounced it "squirrel". Makes some kind of sense: "Structured QueRy Language".


I was told at Uni that 'Squirrel' was proposed as a pronunciation of SQL after finding that sequel couldn't be used because of a trademark dispute.

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#261675 - 29/07/2005 08:19 Re: earl? [Re: Roger]
peter
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Registered: 13/07/2000
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I once knew a guy that pronounced it "squirrel".

There was a RiscOS database package actually called Squirrel. IIRC this wasn't because it supported SQL, but to draw your attention from the fact that it didn't.

For the record: F-A-Q, S-Q-L and U-R-L, but "dot-exy". Tech linguistics is interesting because so many people are self-taught from purely written resources such as the internet, and so they make up the pronunciations themselves. Most of Empeg pronounce Linux with the short "i" of "fin", and I sometimes slip into that, but I always used to use the long "i" of "fine". And yes, I've heard the WAV (that's "wav" with a short "a", not W-A-V) of Mr Torvalds using the "ee" sound of "fine herbes".

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#261676 - 29/07/2005 08:56 Re: earl? [Re: peter]
andym
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So how do you pronounce debian?
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#261677 - 29/07/2005 09:17 Re: earl? [Re: David]
JeffS
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Now that I think about it, I used to say S-Q-L, but fell into "sequel" when I started referring to "SQL Server" (which many refer to as M-S-S-Q-L). I'm not sure what I use when referring to the language, though. I might still say S-Q-L. I'll have to listen to myself and find out!

So how about id (as in the company that created Doom)? I always pronounced it as a word (as in the whole ego thing), but when I met my brother in law he called it I-D. It struck me at that point that I'd always just assumed the pronunciation, since I only ever read the name.

I remember going to a Delphi meeting and hearing all of these people pronounce the "i" like an "e" when I've always pronounced it like an "i". That's when you start wondering if you were "wrong" all along. After a few years in a vacume with just written words, its difficult to adjust to having something spoken differently than you learned it.
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#261678 - 29/07/2005 09:27 Re: earl? [Re: andym]
peter
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So how do you pronounce debian?

DEB-yun, short e, two syllables (maybe just a ghost of the middle syllable). And I'd been calling Qt "Q-T" for ages before I realised it was probably intended to be pronounced "cute". And it's only when I noticed that Ximian's logo was a monkey that I started calling it "simian" and not "zimian".

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#261679 - 29/07/2005 09:38 Re: earl? [Re: andy]
frog51
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I like "World wide information superhighway web"

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#261680 - 29/07/2005 09:40 Re: earl? [Re: peter]
frog51
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And how about SUSE? S-U-S-E, Suzi or Soos
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#261681 - 29/07/2005 09:58 Re: earl? [Re: peter]
andym
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So how do you pronounce debian?

DEB-yun, short e, two syllables (maybe just a ghost of the middle syllable). And I'd been calling Qt "Q-T" for ages before I realised it was probably intended to be pronounced "cute". And it's only when I noticed that Ximian's logo was a monkey that I started calling it "simian" and not "zimian".

Peter


Thanks for that Peter. I'd always assumed Qt was Q-T too, it was only when I watched one of their audio-annotated demo thingies on their website did I hear the guy refer to it as 'cute'.

As for SuSE, I've always called it soos.
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#261682 - 29/07/2005 10:14 Re: earl? [Re: frog51]
peter
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Soozer, on the basis that German doesn't go in for weak final e's ("Freunde, nicht diese toene"). But unlike Debian or Linux, that's one I never had much confidence in. I don't speak German; perhaps a real German would pronounce it "sooser"?

Peter


Edited by peter (29/07/2005 10:23)

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#261683 - 29/07/2005 16:40 Re: earl? [Re: peter]
wfaulk
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Those pronunciations are much funnier when read with an accent that actually emphasizes Rs, like most American ones.
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