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#295325 - 15/03/2007 05:34 Is this a bogus eBay auction?
tanstaafl.
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Registered: 08/07/1999
Posts: 5546
Loc: Ajijic, Mexico
I came across this auction on eBay and the more I looked at it the more bogus it seemed to be.

Oh. In the 5 minutes since I last looked at the auction, eBay has cancelled it. This listing (250094586430) has been removed or is no longer available. I guess my suspicions were well-founded! But, dammit, I put so much work into studying and researching that auction and the seller that I'm going to post my suspicions here anyway!

Here are the things that drew my attention that I wrote in an email to the seller:

1) You are in France. 100% of your feedback for the 60 items you have sold is in French, suggesting you have sold only in France.
2) The auction says the item is in New York.
3) You are using a J&R Camera logo in your picture.
4) You don't show shipping method or costs.
5) You don't indicate paymenet method
6) There is no eBay buyer protection
7) Part of your item description is for a completely different camera
8) You do not indicate whether the camera is new or used.
9) A search for transactions by "titimk2" shows no completed transactions--ever. How, then, do you have 100% positive feedback on 200 transactions?
10) Your user profile says that you currently have no active listings, despite the three auctions under your name.
11) You have three identical auctions running, each one with four cameras. This does not seem reasonable.
12) Despite incredibly low prices, nobody has bid on any of the auctions.
13) The prices are too low to be believable -- less than 10% of the normal price.


Darn... here I was all excited that I was going to get a $500 camera for $50. If that army general in Nigeria would just put the money into my bank account that he promised me, I could pay the full $500 and not worry about it. I wonder what's taking him so long?

tanstaafl.
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#295326 - 15/03/2007 16:14 Re: Is this a bogus eBay auction? [Re: tanstaafl.]
Robotic
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Registered: 06/04/2005
Posts: 2026
Loc: Seattle transplant
With a screen name like yours I'd expect you to be even more suspicious of such good deals.

Good detective work, though!
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#295327 - 20/03/2007 15:07 eBay blocks JavaScript [Re: Robotic]
oliver
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Registered: 02/04/2002
Posts: 691
Well, it looks like because of auctions like those, ebay has completely blocked all javascript from auction descriptions.

This is a huge pain, because all my auction templates use custom scripts for the image gallery options. I won't give eBay another dime for hosting my pictures, or providing the lame image gallery.

Even the self-hosting options, which allowed you to get a free slideshow now includes a $1.00 fee.

What is the best option, move to a flash image gallery? Anyone have any recommendations for a super easy flash control?

I already built an asp.net handler to auto-thumbnail my images. In my eBay description I'd just link to the image with a querystring w=# for the desired size. I'd like to re-use this in the flash control if possible, but I've always hated flash so I've never really looked into it.

I've been wrapping all my thumbnails around the large image placeholder, I'd like to keep this layout. I really hate the scrollbar flash image viewer everyone seems to be using.
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#295328 - 20/03/2007 15:10 Re: eBay blocks JavaScript [Re: oliver]
peter
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Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4174
Loc: Cambridge, England
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What is the best option, move to a flash image gallery?

Not if you want people to see the pictures, no.

Peter

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#295329 - 20/03/2007 15:13 Re: eBay blocks JavaScript [Re: oliver]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
What's wrong with just embedding images? You need the fancy "thumbnails, when clicked, show a bigger version without opening a new page" thing?
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#295330 - 20/03/2007 15:14 Re: eBay blocks JavaScript [Re: peter]
oliver
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Registered: 02/04/2002
Posts: 691
Quote:
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What is the best option, move to a flash image gallery?

Not if you want people to see the pictures, no.


So, I just have to suck it up, and give eBay even more money, or revert to a web 1.0 gallery.
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#295331 - 20/03/2007 15:15 Re: eBay blocks JavaScript [Re: wfaulk]
oliver
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Registered: 02/04/2002
Posts: 691
Quote:
What's wrong with just embedding images? You need the fancy "thumbnails, when clicked, show a bigger version without opening a new page" thing?


Exactly, That was what I was trying to archive. It even worked for the last 60 days. Until today, stupid stupid eBay.
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#295332 - 20/03/2007 15:16 Re: eBay blocks JavaScript [Re: oliver]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
I assume eBay denies using IFRAMEs.
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#295333 - 20/03/2007 15:17 Re: eBay blocks JavaScript [Re: wfaulk]
oliver
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Registered: 02/04/2002
Posts: 691
Quote:
I assume eBay denies using IFRAMEs.


This is the error message I get when including a <script> tag.

Quote:
Your listing cannot contain javascript (".cookie", "cookie(", "replace(", IFRAME, META, or includes), cookies or base href.
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#295334 - 20/03/2007 15:38 Re: eBay blocks JavaScript [Re: oliver]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Hmm. The only thing I can think of that might work is manipulating the z-index of a number of same-sized preloaded images via onmouseclick. Of course, they might consider onmouseclick to be JavaScript. It isn't, but it's most often used to reference JavaScript. And, even then, I'm not sure if there's a way to do modify the z-index (especially of a different element) without also using JavaScript.

Then again, I'm not a web developer. You should probably wait for Cybjorg to notice.


Edited by wfaulk (20/03/2007 15:39)
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#295335 - 20/03/2007 15:38 Re: eBay blocks JavaScript [Re: oliver]
oliver
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Registered: 02/04/2002
Posts: 691
Ok, A little more messing around, it's weird what they are blocking, and what they let through.

Maybe you guys can help me correct my js function.

Works
Code:

<script language=javascript>
function ChangeImage(url,width) {
largeWidth=1000;
tempUrl = 'http://images.mydomain.com/motors/6500/DSCN' + url + '.jpg';
document.img0.src=tempUrl+'?w='+width;
}
</script>



Doesn't Work
Code:

<script language=javascript>
function ChangeImage(url,width) {
largeWidth=1000;
tempUrl = 'http://images.mydomain.com/motors/6500/DSCN' + url + '.jpg';
document.img0.src=tempUrl+'?w='+width;
document.img0.setAttribute("onClick", "window.open(tempUrl+'?w='+largeWidth,'eBayAuctionPopup','width='+largeWidth+',height=1200')");
}
</script>



So, it seems like they are blocking the window.open js command, but I'm not positive.
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#295336 - 20/03/2007 16:01 Re: eBay blocks JavaScript [Re: oliver]
peter
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Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4174
Loc: Cambridge, England
Quote:
Your listing cannot contain javascript (".cookie", "cookie(", "replace(", IFRAME, META, or includes), cookies or base href.

It's extremely hard to forbid access to certain Javascript facilities textually while allowing access to others. There's just so many ways of referring to things in that language...

Peter

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#295337 - 20/03/2007 16:14 Re: eBay blocks JavaScript [Re: peter]
oliver
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Registered: 02/04/2002
Posts: 691
What other methods can I try to use to open a new window when a user clicks on the medium image placeholder?

Before this, I was trying to set a hyperlink href property via javascript, but wasn't successful.
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