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#291666 - 23/12/2006 03:12 Player finds disks but won't use them?
SE_Sport_Driver
carpal tunnel

Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
My player was working just fine, then I went to change tracks. Once I selected a new playlist, the W icon came on and the songs never loaded. The player is stuck on 0:00. I can skip to the next track, but it still won't play. The W icon stays lit and the hard drive icon blinks once in a while. Rebooting the player works okay, it finds the disks, loads the player software and database, but then gets stuck. For some reason, I can no longer select any other playlists. If I try, the player just displays the hourglass icon forever.

So, I don't understand how it can load the software and player database but hang after that.

Bad track or something?

I can view the serial output during boot until:
<yellow>hijack: removed menu entry: "Hard Disk Detection"
khttpd: listening on port 80
kftpd: listening on port 21</yellow>

At that point, I get no more data displayed. I can't do a Q to get the bash prompt. I can't connect via emplode... nothing.

The only thing I seem to be able to do is boot the player and install HiJack. I would almost guess that one of the drives isn't responding but the boot process shows no errors. (?)

Full boot log if there are any clues:
Quote:
On DC power, quick boot

e000 v1.04
Copying kernel...
Calling linux kernel...
Uncompressing Linux..................................... done, booting the kerne
l.
Linux version 2.2.17-rmk5-np17-empeg52-hijack-v459 ([email protected]) (gcc version
2.95.3 20010315 (release)) #2 Mon May 8 00:10:29 EDT 2006
Processor: Intel StrongARM-1100 revision 11
Checking for extra DRAM:
c1000000: passed.
c1100000: passed.
c1200000: passed.
c1300000: passed.
c1400000: passed.
c1500000: passed.
c1600000: passed.
c1700000: passed.
c1800000: passed.
c1900000: passed.
c1a00000: passed.
c1b00000: passed.
c1c00000: passed.
c1d00000: passed.
c1e00000: passed.
c1f00000: passed.
c2000000: passed.
c2100000: passed.
c2200000: passed.
c2300000: passed.
c2400000: passed.
c2500000: passed.
c2600000: passed.
c2700000: passed.
c2800000: passed.
c2900000: passed.
c2a00000: passed.
c2b00000: passed.
c2c00000: passed.
c2d00000: passed.
c2e00000: passed.
c2f00000: passed.
c3000000: passed.
c3100000: passed.
c3200000: passed.
c3300000: passed.
c3400000: passed.
c3500000: passed.
c3600000: passed.
c3700000: passed.
c3800000: passed.
c3900000: passed.
c3a00000: passed.
c3b00000: passed.
c3c00000: passed.
c3d00000: passed.
c3e00000: passed.
c3f00000: passed.
NetWinder Floating Point Emulator V0.94.1 (c) 1998 Corel Computer Corp.
empeg-car player (hardware revision 9, serial number 30102609) 64MB DRAM
Command line: mem=16m noinitrd
Calibrating delay loop... 207.67 BogoMIPS
Memory: 63676k/64M available (988k code, 20k reserved, 848k data, 4k init)
Dentry hash table entries: 8192 (order 4, 64k)
Buffer cache hash table entries: 65
Page cache hash table entries: 16384 (order 4, 64k)
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 65536 bhash 65536)
IrDA (tm) Protocols for Linux-2.2 (Dag Brattli)
Starting kswapd v 1.5
SA1100 serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled
ttyS00 at 0xf8010000 (irq = 15) is a SA1100 UART
ttyS01 at 0xf8050000 (irq = 17) is a SA1100 UA
ttyS02 at 0xf8030000 (irq = 16) is a SA1100 UART
Signature is 67706d65 'empg'
Found custom animation at offset 0x97364
Tuner: loopback=1, ID=-1
Forced AC/Home mode
Scheduling custom logo.
empeg display initialised.
empeg dsp audio initialised
empeg dsp mixer initialised
empeg dsp initialised
empeg audio-in initialised, CS4231A revision a0
empeg remote control/panel button initialised.
empeg usb initialised, PDIUSBD12 id 1012
empeg state support initialised 0089/88c1 (save to d0005b80).
empeg RDS driver initialised
empeg power-pic driver initialised (first boot)
RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size
empeg single channel IDE
Probing primary interface...
ide_data_test: wrote 0x0000 read 0x0080
ide_data_test: wrote 0xffff read 0x0080
ide_data_test: wrote 0xaaaa read 0x0080
ide_data_test: wrote 0x5555 read 0x0080
ide_data_test: wrote 0x0000 read 0x0080
ide_data_test: wrote 0xffff read 0x0080
ide_data_test: wrote 0xaaaa read 0x0080
ide_data_test: wrote 0x5555 read 0x0080
ide_data_test: wrote 0x0000 read 0x0080
ide_data_test: wrote 0xffff read 0x0080
ide_data_test: wrote 0xaaaa read 0x0080
ide_data_test: wrote 0x5555 read 0x0080
ide_data_test: wrote 0x0000 read 0x0080
ide_data_test: wrote 0xffff read 0x0080
ide_data_test: wrote 0xaaaa read 0x0080
ide_data_test: wrote 0x5555 read 0x0080
hdb: IC25N080ATMR04-0, ATA DISK drive
ide_data_test: wrote 0x0000 read 0x0080
ide_data_test: wrote 0xffff read 0x0080
ide_data_test: wrote 0xaaaa read 0x0080
ide_data_test: wrote 0x5555 read 0x0080
hdb: IC25N080ATMR04-0, ATA DISK drive
ide_data_test: wrote 0x0000 read 0x0000
ide_data_test: wrote 0xffff read 0xffff
ide_data_test: wrote 0xaaaa read 0xaaaa
ide_data_test: wrote 0x5555 read 0x5555
hda: HTS548080M9AT00, ATA DISK drive
hdb: IC25N080ATMR04-0, ATA DISK drive
ide0 at 0x000-0x007,0x038 on irq 6
hda: HTS548080M9AT00, 76319MB w/7877kB Cache, CHS=9729/255/63
hdb: IC25N080ATMR04-0, 76319MB w/7884kB Cache, CHS=9729/255/63
empeg-flash driver initialized
smc chip id/revision 0x3349
smc9194.c:v0.12 03/06/96 by Erik Stahlman ([email protected])

SMC9194: SMC91C94(r:9) at 0x4008000 IRQ:7 INTF:TP MEM:6144b MAC 00:02:d7:26:0a:3
1
Partition check:
hda: hda1 < hda5 hda6 > hda2 hda3 hda4
hdb: hdb1 < hdb5 hdb6 > hdb2 hdb3 hdb4
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem) readonly.
Freeing unused kernel memory: 4k init
Timezone: Atlantic/South_Georgia
empeg init 0.8
I see this is a developer image!
Mounting proc
Mounting first music partition
Tried to mount /dev/hda4 as reiserfs but got error 19
Mounting second music partition
Remounting first music partition read-only
Remounting second music partition read-only
Press 'q' now to go into development mode. You Have Zero Seconds To Comply...
Starting pla
player redirected to /proc/ttyH
Timezone: Atlantic/South_Georgia
hijack: removed menu entry: "Font Display"
hijack: removed menu entry: "Show Flash Savearea"
hijack: removed menu entry: "Volume Level on Boot"
hijack: removed menu entry: "Hard Disk Detection"
khttpd: listening on port 80
kftpd: listening on port 21


Scratching my head on this one....
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#291667 - 23/12/2006 04:06 Re: Player finds disks but won't use them? [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
StigOE
addict

Registered: 27/10/2002
Posts: 568
I might be wrong, but to me it looks like the first disk doesn't spin up properly, only the second.

Stig

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#291668 - 23/12/2006 08:31 Re: Player finds disks but won't use them? [Re: StigOE]
Roger
carpal tunnel

Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5682
Loc: London, UK
Quote:
I might be wrong, but to me it looks like the first disk doesn't spin up properly, only the second.


No, the first disk spins up fine, just it seems to be taking longer than the second. If you look towards the end of the boot log, you can see the ID string for both disks.

The fact that it's taking longer could be normal, or it could be a sign of trouble.
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#291669 - 23/12/2006 08:34 Re: Player finds disks but won't use them? [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
Roger
carpal tunnel

Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5682
Loc: London, UK
Quote:
I can't do a Q to get the bash prompt.


That's never worked properly. You should use Ctrl+C to quit the player. If you get to the bash prompt successfully, take a look in /empeg/fids0 and /empeg/fids1. If they're both full of files, then your disks were found and mounted correctly.

Are you sure that it's not just the player crashing on a bad track? What version of the player software was it?

Try "player -i", which resets the playlist and other stuff.
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#291670 - 23/12/2006 12:40 Re: Player finds disks but won't use them? [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
mlord
carpal tunnel

Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14484
Loc: Canada
The disks are just fine here. Try Roger's suggestions.

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#291671 - 23/12/2006 14:22 Re: Player finds disks but won't use them? [Re: Roger]
SE_Sport_Driver
carpal tunnel

Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
I feel like such a noob! If I would have remembered Control-C I think I would have figured it out.

Thanks guys! All seems to be fine now... I just wonder what's messed up with my Bob Seager collection now! (That's where it hung).
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#291672 - 23/12/2006 17:20 Re: Player finds disks but won't use them? [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
peter
carpal tunnel

Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4174
Loc: Cambridge, England
Quote:
I would almost guess that one of the drives isn't responding but the boot process shows no errors. (?)

This bit of your boot log doesn't look at all good:

Quote:
ide_data_test: wrote 0x0000 read 0x0080
ide_data_test: wrote 0xffff read 0x0080
ide_data_test: wrote 0xaaaa read 0x0080
ide_data_test: wrote 0x5555 read 0x0080

Looks like you have an intermittent IDE failure.

Peter

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#291673 - 23/12/2006 19:20 Re: Player finds disks but won't use them? [Re: peter]
SE_Sport_Driver
carpal tunnel

Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
Ah, good catch. Any idea which of the drives it likely is?
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#291674 - 23/12/2006 21:51 Re: Player finds disks but won't use them? [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
Roger
carpal tunnel

Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5682
Loc: London, UK
Quote:
Ah, good catch. Any idea which of the drives it likely is?


Could be hda -- that drive doesn't display its ID until the error mysteriously resolves itself:

Code:

ide_data_test: wrote 0x0000 read 0x0080
ide_data_test: wrote 0xffff read 0x0080
ide_data_test: wrote 0xaaaa read 0x0080
ide_data_test: wrote 0x5555 read 0x0080
hdb: IC25N080ATMR04-0, ATA DISK drive
ide_data_test: wrote 0x0000 read 0x0000
ide_data_test: wrote 0xffff read 0xffff
ide_data_test: wrote 0xaaaa read 0xaaaa
ide_data_test: wrote 0x5555 read 0x5555
hda: HTS548080M9AT00, ATA DISK drive
hdb: IC25N080ATMR04-0, ATA DISK drive



In case you've forgotten which one's which, that model number (HTS...) is a Hitachi TravelStar 5K80. The other one (IC25...), which appears to be working OK, is a Hitachi/IBM TravelStar 80GN. I apologise if you already knew that, but I had a quick google for the model numbers in case the ID string was also corrupted.

On the other hand, it might not be a specific disk. It might be the cable or the header. See all of the other threads on this subject for more information.
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#291675 - 24/12/2006 11:35 Re: Player finds disks but won't use them? [Re: Roger]
pgrzelak
carpal tunnel

Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
I thought that the IDE errors were part of recent versions of Hijack - that it normally gives those kind of errors before the drives spin up, and then it clears...
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#291676 - 24/12/2006 12:32 Re: Player finds disks but won't use them? [Re: pgrzelak]
Roger
carpal tunnel

Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5682
Loc: London, UK
Quote:
I thought that the IDE errors were part of recent versions of Hijack - that it normally gives those kind of errors before the drives spin up, and then it clears...


Ah, well if that is the case, then it probably is just that disk taking a while to spin up that's causing those errors. If so, that probably points at that disk being on its way out.
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#291677 - 25/12/2006 15:45 Re: Player finds disks but won't use them? [Re: peter]
mlord
carpal tunnel

Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14484
Loc: Canada
Quote:
Quote:
I would almost guess that one of the drives isn't responding but the boot process shows no errors. (?)

This bit of your boot log doesn't look at all good:

Quote:
ide_data_test: wrote 0x0000 read 0x0080
ide_data_test: wrote 0xffff read 0x0080
ide_data_test: wrote 0xaaaa read 0x0080
ide_data_test: wrote 0x5555 read 0x0080

Looks like you have an intermittent IDE failure.

Peter


No, not an IDE failure. That's just the data test happening while the IDE drive is still "in reset", with a tristated data bus. The CS4231A seems to have a slight up-pull on D7, so whenever the bus is "idle", it usually reads 0080. Note that one common failure mode of the CS4231A is where D7 gets stuck fully "on" -- something fishy about that pin in general.

Cheers

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#291678 - 25/12/2006 15:47 Re: Player finds disks but won't use them? [Re: Roger]
mlord
carpal tunnel

Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14484
Loc: Canada
Quote:
Quote:
I thought that the IDE errors were part of recent versions of Hijack - that it normally gives those kind of errors before the drives spin up, and then it clears...


Ah, well if that is the case, then it probably is just that disk taking a while to spin up that's causing those errors. If so, that probably points at that disk being on its way out.


No, there is nothing here to indicate any kind of disk problem at all.

The "master" IDE device stays in reset until it finishes a post-reset handshake with the "slave" device, which is why you'll often see hdb/hdc appear before hda.

Nothing unusual. No need to rush out and replace a perfectly good drive.

Cheers

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#291679 - 26/12/2006 17:30 Re: Player finds disks but won't use them? [Re: mlord]
Roger
carpal tunnel

Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5682
Loc: London, UK
Quote:
Nothing unusual. No need to rush out and replace a perfectly good drive.


Ah, I stand corrected. Thanks Mark.
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#291680 - 26/12/2006 17:52 Re: Player finds disks but won't use them? [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
SE_Sport_Driver
carpal tunnel

Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
Thank you so much everyone. I'll have a bit more time to tinker with it this week hopefully and I'll update as I go.

Thank you, thank you!
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