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#306574 - 26/01/2008 11:47 direct jump to song/playlist
Boelle
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Registered: 22/11/2007
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how do i jump directly to a song or playlist?

i have exported the database so i have a nice list of every song and playlist... but it would be nice to go directly to a song instead of looking through all the playlist's via the menu
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#306575 - 26/01/2008 12:16 Re: direct jump to song/playlist [Re: Boelle]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 13528
Loc: Canada
Is there no way to directly enter a FID on the remote?

The serial port has this feature.. mmm.. ?

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#306576 - 26/01/2008 12:22 Re: direct jump to song/playlist [Re: mlord]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 13528
Loc: Canada
Originally Posted By: mlord
Is there no way to directly enter a FID on the remote?

The serial port has this feature.. mmm.. ?


Along those lines..
What does the PIN/Search function actually do (single-press of Search button) ?

Tony?

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#306577 - 26/01/2008 12:41 Re: direct jump to song/playlist [Re: mlord]
andy
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Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 5677
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
If I remember rightly you set a PIN for a track or playlist in emplode and then a PIN search plays that track/playlist.
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#306578 - 26/01/2008 12:49 Re: direct jump to song/playlist [Re: andy]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 13528
Loc: Canada
Originally Posted By: andy
If I remember rightly you set a PIN for a track or playlist in emplode and then a PIN search plays that track/playlist.


Ahh.. yes, that's it. Inside Emplode, turn on the "PIN" column under the View menu, and then one can set direct-access codes for individual playlists/tunes.

But that's kind of limiting, I suppose. Would anyone here have use for direct-FID access via the remote? I could add it to Hijack without too much fuss, but the input would likely be in decimal rather than the usual hex that FIDs normally use.

???

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#306579 - 26/01/2008 12:56 Re: direct jump to song/playlist [Re: Boelle]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 13528
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Originally Posted By: Boelle
how do i jump directly to a song or playlist?

i have exported the database so i have a nice list of every song and playlist... but it would be nice to go directly to a song instead of looking through all the playlist's via the menu


Oh, now you did say you have exported the database. But exported to where?

If it's on another computer, then you already do have a way to directly jump to a song/playlist. Hijack supports serial commands over HTTP.

Eg. Fid#100 (the master "All" playlist):

http://your.player.ip.address/?NODATA&SERIAL=#100

(you may need to use %23 instead of the # symbol).



Edited by mlord (26/01/2008 13:00)

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#306580 - 26/01/2008 13:00 Re: direct jump to song/playlist [Re: mlord]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 13528
Loc: Canada
For other examples, just connect to the web server on your empeg, and click on the Click here for playlists link at the bottom of the screen to get the playlist interface.

Now, on subsequent screens, the Play links actually just do what I showed in my previous post, commands like this:

http://xx.xx.xx.xx/?NODATA&SERIAL=#1cf00

Cheers


Edited by mlord (26/01/2008 13:01)

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#306581 - 26/01/2008 13:04 Re: direct jump to song/playlist [Re: mlord]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 13528
Loc: Canada
And if you have not already discovered/installed the Empeg WebLite web stuff onto your player, then you should do so immediately.

This might save you some effort on whatever "project" you have "exported" your playlists for.. wink

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#306586 - 26/01/2008 16:00 Re: direct jump to song/playlist [Re: Boelle]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 30639
Loc: Seattle, WA
Originally Posted By: Boelle
how do i jump directly to a song or playlist?


To jump directly to a song, use the alphanumeric Search feature on the remote control. It is explained in more detail here

To jump directly to a specific playlist, use Emplode to assign that playlist a PIN and use the PIN search feature on the remote control. Unless I'm remembering wrong and there's also an alphanumeric playlist search. I don't think there is.

Here's something cool: To jump directly to the LAST playlist you selected, press and hold on the PLAYLISTS menu. More detail here under "Go back to last playlist menu".
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#306610 - 27/01/2008 18:56 Re: direct jump to song/playlist [Re: mlord]
Boelle
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Registered: 22/11/2007
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Loc: Denmark, Odense
Originally Posted By: mlord
Oh, now you did say you have exported the database. But exported to where?


i exported it to a .csv file and then imported it in excel...

if i could jump to a fid number it would be nice... going to assign pin's for each track would take a loooonnnggg time
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#306611 - 27/01/2008 19:14 Re: direct jump to song/playlist [Re: Boelle]
mlord
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Originally Posted By: Boelle
Originally Posted By: mlord
Oh, now you did say you have exported the database. But exported to where?


i exported it to a .csv file and then imported it in excel...

So you must be just printing it out as a hand reference, rather than using another computer to select/queue tunes, right?

Quote:

if i could jump to a fid number it would be nice... going to assign pin's for each track would take a loooonnnggg time

I'll think about it. I know what/how to do it, just not sure if I'll get round to it.

Cheers

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#306624 - 28/01/2008 04:42 Re: direct jump to song/playlist [Re: mlord]
Boelle
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Registered: 22/11/2007
Posts: 475
Loc: Denmark, Odense
Originally Posted By: mlord
So you must be just printing it out as a hand reference, rather than using another computer to select/queue tunes, right?


100% right on this one.. a hand ref. if more easy for me rather than going to have a laptop/pda with me in the car just to select tunes

Originally Posted By: mlord

I'll think about it. I know what/how to do it, just not sure if I'll get round to it.


it's no rush, but would certainly be nice :-)
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#306626 - 28/01/2008 07:26 Re: direct jump to song/playlist [Re: Boelle]
Roger
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Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5528
Loc: London, UK
Originally Posted By: Boelle
a hand ref. if more easy for me rather than going to have a laptop/pda with me in the car just to select tunes


One of the better features of the empeg is the ease with which you can browse for and search for music. Care to explain why this isn't working for you?
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#306628 - 28/01/2008 10:48 Re: direct jump to song/playlist [Re: Roger]
Boelle
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Registered: 22/11/2007
Posts: 475
Loc: Denmark, Odense
the other way could just be nice... we are all diff.
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#306642 - 28/01/2008 17:24 Re: direct jump to song/playlist [Re: Boelle]
canuckInOR
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Registered: 13/02/2002
Posts: 3122
Loc: Portland, OR
Originally Posted By: Boelle
the other way could just be nice... we are all diff.

Except me... I'm patch.

wink

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#306648 - 28/01/2008 22:50 Hijack v480: new FidEntry feature for direct tune/playlist access [Re: Boelle]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 13528
Loc: Canada
Hijack v480 is now available.

New in this release:
  • crash-recovery may now be more reliable.
  • extra stalk debug info.
  • new FidEntry fake button code.
  • removed AM,FM entries from default PopUp0, replaced with Tuner.
  • added FidEntry to default PopUp0.

The FidEntry function is the major new feature, that perhaps 3 of us will enjoy. smile

By default, it can be found on Hijack's PopUp0 menu, which can be assigned to the knob using the Hijack menu Knob Press Redefinition feature. Once that is done, a short tap of the knob brings up PopUp0, and the knob can rotate to peruse the sub-menu. This is nothing new.

Alternately, one can use the ir_translate feature to assign the FidEntry function to any available button, such as the '4' on the RioRemote, with something like this in the config.ini file:

; Not tested by me:
[ir_translate]
Four.M=FidEntry.N


Once FidEntry is active, use the digits on the remote to enter the complete desired fid number, in hex. The next/prev buttons work as expected, as does the knob and all of the other usual suspects. Press Menu/Ok (or the Knob) when done, and your FID will play (if valid).

Users of the Kenwood remote can substitute DNPP for the Menu/Ok button, as usual.

Cheers


Edited by mlord (28/01/2008 22:54)

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#306653 - 29/01/2008 12:07 Re: Hijack v480: new FidEntry feature for direct tune/playlist access [Re: mlord]
sein
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Registered: 07/01/2005
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Loc: Sector ZZ9pZa
Originally Posted By: mlord
  • extra stalk debug info.

Cool, thanks Mark!
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#306656 - 29/01/2008 13:17 Re: Hijack v480: new FidEntry feature for direct tune/playlist access [Re: mlord]
peter
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Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4141
Loc: Cambridge, England
Originally Posted By: mlord
The FidEntry function is the major new feature, that perhaps 3 of us will enjoy. smile

Still sounds like more than use the Receiver Edition. smile

Peter

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#306658 - 29/01/2008 16:23 Re: Hijack v480: new FidEntry feature for direct tune/playlist access [Re: peter]
andy
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Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 5677
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
Originally Posted By: peter

Still sounds like more than use the Receiver Edition. smile

If only it had been the Empeg Edition for the Receiver, rather than the other way around wink
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#306769 - 01/02/2008 20:07 Re: Hijack v480: new FidEntry feature for direct tune/playlist access [Re: andy]
Boelle
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Registered: 22/11/2007
Posts: 475
Loc: Denmark, Odense
works nice with the fid entry, but the fid number in the file that i export from emplode is not hex.. the file looks like this:

18 playlist 12 Stones - 12 Stones
19 tune Crash 12 Stones

is it possible that the next version is with "normal" numbers?
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#306775 - 01/02/2008 23:31 Re: Hijack v480: new FidEntry feature for direct tune/playlist access [Re: andy]
peter
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Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4141
Loc: Cambridge, England
Originally Posted By: andy
If only it had been the Empeg Edition for the Receiver, rather than the other way around wink

Don't think I didn't think about it, but the IDE just isn't brought out to pins.

Peter

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#306776 - 02/02/2008 00:22 Hijack v481: the Ten-Fingered Ape edition. [Re: Boelle]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 13528
Loc: Canada
Originally Posted By: Boelle
works nice with the fid entry, but the fid number in the file that i export from emplode is not hex.. the file looks like this:

18 playlist 12 Stones - 12 Stones
19 tune Crash 12 Stones

is it possible that the next version is with "normal" numbers?


Well, to me, around computers hexadecimal notation is normal numbers, so whatever could you be getting at?
Oh.. maybe you're still stuck on that ancient ape counting system.. wink

So, yeah, stand by for Hijack v481, which adds one more thing, just for this situation.

In config.ini, under the [hijack] section, add this one line:

decimal_fidentry=1


Edited by mlord (02/02/2008 00:24)

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#306777 - 02/02/2008 00:27 Re: Hijack v480: new FidEntry feature for direct tune/playlist access [Re: Boelle]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 13528
Loc: Canada
Originally Posted By: Boelle
works nice with the fid entry, but the fid number in the file that i export from emplode is not hex.. the file looks like this:

18 playlist 12 Stones - 12 Stones
19 tune Crash 12 Stones


Those numbers cannot be used at all. They have no correspondence to how the data is actually referenced in software.

You will have to fix your exports to include the "FID" values (File IDentifiers), which is what FidEntry and the player software all use.

Cheers


Edited by mlord (02/02/2008 00:27)

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#306778 - 02/02/2008 00:36 Re: Hijack v480: new FidEntry feature for direct tune/playlist access [Re: mlord]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 13528
Loc: Canada
Originally Posted By: mlord
Originally Posted By: Boelle
works nice with the fid entry, but the fid number in the file that i export from emplode is not hex.. the file looks like this:

18 playlist 12 Stones - 12 Stones
19 tune Crash 12 Stones


Those numbers cannot be used at all. They have no correspondence to how the data is actually referenced in software.

You will have to fix your exports to include the "FID" values (File IDentifiers), which is what FidEntry and the player software all use.


Ahh.. I see where that came from. The CSV exports from Emplode have purely fictional "FID" values for some odd reason. But the XML exports do indeed have the real/correct FIDs (and in hex!!), so you'll just have to use those instead.

Cheers


Edited by mlord (02/02/2008 00:36)

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#306779 - 02/02/2008 00:39 Re: Hijack v480: new FidEntry feature for direct tune/playlist access [Re: mlord]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 13528
Loc: Canada
Originally Posted By: mlord

Ahh.. I see where that came from. The CSV exports from Emplode have purely fictional "FID" values for some odd reason. But the XML exports do indeed have the real/correct FIDs (and in hex!!), so you'll just have to use those instead.


Or use JEmplode (instead of Emplode) to do the CSV export, in which case you'll get real (decimal, ugh) FIDs as well.

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#306783 - 02/02/2008 08:11 Re: Hijack v480: new FidEntry feature for direct tune/playlist access [Re: mlord]
Boelle
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Registered: 22/11/2007
Posts: 475
Loc: Denmark, Odense
thanks.... odd that it use something fictional...but thanks anyway.. will stick to XML

in ir translate i use this:

AD5219=FidEntry.N ; search

it work, i use a pioneer steering wheel remote

the complete ir translate section looks like this:

[ir_translate]
; The shift key
AD520C.L=20df03.L,null ; press and hold "ATT" = standby
AD520C=null.S ; "ATT" = Shift Key
;
; These are needed to ignore the "Func" button sending out a bogus code
AF5067=null
80AF5067=null
;
; Search macros
; used when shift-lock is active and long press
AD5212.LS=20df0e ; "1" PIN
AD5243.LS=20df0e,20df0e ; "6" year
AD520A.LS=20df0e,20df0e,20df0e ; "9" title
AD521A.LS=20df0e,20df0e,20df0e,20df0e ; "2" artist
AD5241.LS=20df0e,20df0e,20df0e,20df0e,20df0e ; "5" genre
AD5242.LS=20df0e,20df0e,20df0e,20df0e,20df0e,20df0e ; "3" source
;
; Numbers
; Shift lock active, short press
AD5212.S=20df00 ; 1
AD521A.S=20df01 ; 2
AD5242.S=20df02 ; 3
AD5240.S=20df04 ; 4
AD5243.S=20df05 ; 5
AD5241.S=20df06 ; 6
AD5219.S=20df08 ; 7
AD520D.S=20df09 ; 8
AD520A.S=20df0a ; 9
AD520B.S=20df0d ; 0
;
; volume up / down
; ??? AD520A.B
; ??? AD520B.A
AD520A=20df13,20df13,20df13,20df13,20df13
AD520B=20df17,20df17,20df17,20df17,20df17
;
; The "source button"
AD520D.LT=20df07,null ; AM/FM in tuner
AD520D.LM=20df0B,null ; select mode in player
AD520D.T=b9461e ; switch to player from tuner
AD520D.A=b9461e ; switch to player from Aux
AD520D.M=b9461c ; switch to tuner from player
;
; Setting the Prev/Next buttons to emulate front-panel allows
; press-and-hold to do manual tuning in tuner mode
AD5242.T=4;
AD5243.T=2;
AD5242.LM=b9460c.L ;Prev Track / Rewind
AD5243.LM=b9460d.L ; Next Track / Fast Forward
AD5242.M=20df10 ; Prev Track
AD5243.M=20df11 ; Next Track ;
;
; Normal functions
AD5212.L=20df15,null ; press and hold cancel = visual (makes no sense)
AD5212=20df0c ; cancel
AD521A.L=20df12.L ; menu/OK
AD521A=20df12 ; menu/OK
AD5240.L=20df16.L ; play
AD5240=20df16 ; play
AD5241.L=20df14.L ; info
AD5241=20df14 ; info
AD5219=FidEntry.N ; search


Edited by Boelle (02/02/2008 08:13)
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#306786 - 02/02/2008 09:07 Re: Hijack v480: new FidEntry feature for direct tune/playlist access [Re: Boelle]
Boelle
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Registered: 22/11/2007
Posts: 475
Loc: Denmark, Odense
for some reason the xml document that i can export is not in the correct format, neither IE or openofice can open it to some easy readable text... it looks like this:

<tune id="x65f0">
<attribute name="duration">209794</attribute>
<attribute name="skip_count">5396</attribute>
<attribute name="bitrate">fs192</attribute>
<attribute name="genre">Soundtrack</attribute>
<attribute name="file_id">8</attribute>
<attribute name="type">tune</attribute>
<attribute name="length">5035219</attribute>
<attribute name="codec">mp3</attribute>
<attribute name="artist">Michael Kamen</attribute>
<attribute name="offset">146</attribute>
<attribute name="tracknr">8</attribute>
<attribute name="play_count">0</attribute>
<attribute name="ctime">1200511632</attribute>
<attribute name="play_last">0</attribute>
<attribute name="year">1993</attribute>
<attribute name="marked"></attribute>
<attribute name="source">The Three Musketeers</attribute>
<attribute name="drive">0</attribute>
<attribute name="samplerate">44100</attribute>
<attribute name="title">Cannonballs (Rigadoon)</attribute>
</tune>
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#306787 - 02/02/2008 09:40 Re: Hijack v480: new FidEntry feature for direct tune/playlist access [Re: Boelle]
Boelle
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Registered: 22/11/2007
Posts: 475
Loc: Denmark, Odense
if i could just get the xml data converted to cvs format....

EDIT: did some google for a converter, no luck... what i want is to be able to sort the file so it looks some like this:

18 playlist 12 Stones - 12 Stones
19 tune Crash 12 Stones
20 tune Broken 12 Stones
21 tune The Way I Feel 12 Stones
22 tune Open Your Eyes 12 Stones
23 tune Home 12 Stones
24 tune Fade Away 12 Stones
25 tune Back Up 12 Stones
26 tune Soulfire 12 Stones
27 tune In My Head 12 Stones
28 tune Running Out Of Pain 12 Stones
29 tune My Life 12 Stones
30 tune Eric's Song 12 Stones
31 playlist Ace Of Base - Happy Nation
32 tune Voulez-Vous Danser Ace Of Base
33 tune All That She Wants Ace Of Base
34 tune Münchhausen (Just Chaos) Ace Of Base
35 tune Happy Nation Ace Of Base
36 tune Waiting For Magic Ace Of Base
37 tune Fashion Party Ace Of Base
38 tune Wheel Of Fortune Ace Of Base
39 tune Dancer In A Daydream Ace Of Base
40 tune My Mind (Mindless Mix) Ace Of Base
41 tune Wheel Of Fortune (Original Club Mix) Ace Of Base
42 tune Dimension Of Depth Ace Of Base
43 tune Young And Proud Ace Of Base
44 tune All That She Wants (Banghra Version) Ace Of Base

the first number should just be the actual fid number in hex


Edited by Boelle (02/02/2008 10:59)
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#306788 - 02/02/2008 11:22 Re: Hijack v480: new FidEntry feature for direct tune/playlist access [Re: Boelle]
Boelle
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Registered: 22/11/2007
Posts: 475
Loc: Denmark, Odense
just to be ahead of others... sorry i'm so stupid that i overlook if i can choose free between hex and decimal
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#306789 - 02/02/2008 11:44 Re: Hijack v480: new FidEntry feature for direct tune/playlist access [Re: Boelle]
Boelle
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Registered: 22/11/2007
Posts: 475
Loc: Denmark, Odense
cant use decimal input for sure, i did an export to csv foramt from Jemplode... it's the same as export from emplode...

my complete config.ini is:

[Options]
Name=Empeg
[User Info]
Email=
Phone=
Name=Tina Andersen & Bo Herrmannsen
[sense]
muteaction=1
mute=-1
[power]
off_timeout=60000
[display]
play_count=1
visual_names=1
caching=1
[kenwood]
disabled=0
[menu]
quit=0
sort_playlist=1
[shuffle]
deduplicate=1
[hush]
hushpercent=20
[volumecap]
enabled=0
[ramp]
disabled=0
[controls]
stalk_side=none
[tuner]
region=europe
[aux]
source=
title=
artist=
[synchronise]
seq_num=27
[wendy]
flag_amount=0
[custom]
wendy=
[searches]
amount=0
[VisualFavourites_AM]
count=0
[VisualFavourites_AUX]
count=0
[VisualFavourites_DSP]
count=0
[VisualFavourites_FM]
count=0

[hijack]
decimal_fidentry=1

[ir_translate]
; The shift key
AD520C.L=20df03.L,null ; press and hold "ATT" = standby
AD520C=null.S ; "ATT" = Shift Key
;
; These are needed to ignore the "Func" button sending out a bogus code
AF5067=null
80AF5067=null
;
; Search macros
; used when shift-lock is active and long press
AD5212.LS=20df0e ; "1" PIN
AD5243.LS=20df0e,20df0e ; "6" year
AD520A.LS=20df0e,20df0e,20df0e ; "9" title
AD521A.LS=20df0e,20df0e,20df0e,20df0e ; "2" artist
AD5241.LS=20df0e,20df0e,20df0e,20df0e,20df0e ; "5" genre
AD5242.LS=20df0e,20df0e,20df0e,20df0e,20df0e,20df0e ; "3" source
;
; Numbers
; Shift lock active, short press
AD5212.S=20df00 ; 1
AD521A.S=20df01 ; 2
AD5242.S=20df02 ; 3
AD5240.S=20df04 ; 4
AD5243.S=20df05 ; 5
AD5241.S=20df06 ; 6
AD5219.S=20df08 ; 7
AD520D.S=20df09 ; 8
AD520A.S=20df0a ; 9
AD520B.S=20df0d ; 0
;
; volume up / down
; ??? AD520A.B
; ??? AD520B.A
AD520A=20df13,20df13,20df13,20df13,20df13
AD520B=20df17,20df17,20df17,20df17,20df17
;
; The "source button"
AD520D.LT=20df07,null ; AM/FM in tuner
AD520D.LM=20df0B,null ; select mode in player
AD520D.T=b9461e ; switch to player from tuner
AD520D.A=b9461e ; switch to player from Aux
AD520D.M=b9461c ; switch to tuner from player
;
; Setting the Prev/Next buttons to emulate front-panel allows
; press-and-hold to do manual tuning in tuner mode
AD5242.T=4;
AD5243.T=2;
AD5242.LM=b9460c.L ;Prev Track / Rewind
AD5243.LM=b9460d.L ; Next Track / Fast Forward
AD5242.M=20df10 ; Prev Track
AD5243.M=20df11 ; Next Track ;
;
; Normal functions
AD5212.L=20df15,null ; press and hold cancel = visual (makes no sense)
AD5212=20df0c ; cancel
AD521A.L=20df12.L ; menu/OK
AD521A=20df12 ; menu/OK
AD5240.L=20df16.L ; play
AD5240=20df16 ; play
AD5241.L=20df14.L ; info
AD5241=20df14 ; info
AD5219=FidEntry.N ; search


if i export to xml i just opens in openoffice writer, should it not open in calc? in IE it just shows the same as in openoffice writer

what can i have done wrong?


Edited by Boelle (02/02/2008 11:46)
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