Now that the prices of the 8500DV seem reasonable, I might just get one for capturing and the like. I have a few older AIW cards that are showing their age, and my other capture cards aren't all that great. For gaming though, I'm still sticking with NVidia. I guess I'm stubborn... for now. The reviews and specs of the 9700 look damn impressive, but it's only a matter of time before NVidia comes out with something better. I guess we'll just have to wait and see...