Then use the onelist.com mailing list. I believe that very complaint is what got it formed in the first place.

And now you're being self contradictory.
On the one hand, you're telling me that you think that the existence of Marc's service is confusing, and on the other hand you're proposing creating a second, separate community? If the features I suggested (individual messages with links back to the board) were implemented by WWWThreads instead of Marc, would that be OK with you? If so, then you're just being pedantic.

To be fair, that's what Marc currently does, so the answer is still "no, that's not acceptable, because his implementation (one-way-only) is brain-dead and broken.

But the digests are one-way-only. Better get yourself excluded from that too. After all, I could reimplement Marc's code on my mail machine, invoked by procmail, and get the same effect. I haven't because I consider reinventing wheels to be brain-dead and broken, but if Marc ends up filtering other contributors, I'll have to look at it.

Actually, I'll be submitting a request to the author of the software to include a link to each message in the digests (That marc scrapes right now). This will make the digest more useful for lurkers.

While you're at it, get them to add a real, bi-directional email interface so we can all be happy. Digests are inherently unreadable because they aren't threaded. I don't object terribly to having to go back to the website to post a reply, but if I could only read online or a digest, I probably wouldn't read. Indeed, I really didn't read the digests until Marc built the burster...and I was running 8a for a long time. [grin]

My complaint, simply put, is that Marc's system adds unnecessary confusion where none is needed. There is an e-mail mailing list. If there was SUCH a demand for e-mail-based systems, it would be thriving.

You would rather have two separate communities than allow access to a single community in a way that is more palatable to some of it's members? I really don't understand where you're coming from. The digest is OK because it says "empeg.comms.net" instead of "empeg.merlins.org"? Is that it?

I think its important to note that, according to the archives, the Empeg folks ARE on the onelist.com mailing list, but simply that nobody uses it.

Nobody uses it because we didn't (and may still not) have critical mass for two communities. I still fail to see why you're trying to destroy efforts to make a single community more accessible.

I strongly object to trying to prop up a badly misconfigured mailing list with web-forum data simply because a minority want to use e-mail. I'll say "minority" with confidence, because if it was a majority, this forum would have died and the onelist.com list would have flourished easily.

So you'll try to force a split between those who prefer email to those who don't.

OK, I guess I'll be participating in the Dredd-free version of the empeg community from now on.

-Zandr
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