but 2, i can repeat indefinitely.

Okay, hopefully we will get Peter to see this and request that he re-open bug number 1785.

Could you please peek at the thread here and see if this also describes your observed behavior?

I believe it has something to do with the amount of voltage being stolen by the car's starter motor. When I first reproduced it, it was because my starter would drop the car's overall voltage to x when starting with the player in standby mode. This caused the player to do the "battery icon" thing without fully rebooting, hence inducing the bug.

But now, since beta13 was released, my car coincidentally is now dropping to x-1 volts when I turn the key, hence causing it to fully reboot the player and curing the problem. I was not able to reproduce it on beta13, not because of a software bugfix, but because my car's just putting out lower voltage lately.
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Tony Fabris