well i spent the day setting up the basic demo package of UBB.Threads, it took the day because I'm very impatient when it comes to reading help files

and got it working, well sort of, I was unable to corner our netadmin to get the SMTP server details, so I just have a nice pretty looking forum with no users or topics

I'm not completely off my rocker with regards to 'authentication' as a search of www.ubbdev.com returns 18 hits, with this post grabbing my attention. So there does appear to be some way around it, just how much of a hack it is I won't now for another bit.

anyway, thanks for the sympathy and words of support. It nice to know that my company does not have a monopoly on id10ts