Right, that answers the question of whether you can still rip them, thanks, there is still the issue of reduced quality though.
I guess the question of "cracking" the format may be useful for someone who wants to extract the extra musical info on their computer without going to the expense of buying a special cd player. I still maintain that it is another example of micro$oft trying to dominate the digital universe!
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Peter.
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