Hmm- point of view issue here, I guess. I certainly agree with Rob, because I find them dull, depressing, whiny and sadly untalented.

But a lot of the stuff I like, other folks see as crap (like Marilyn Manson, Rob Zombie, Metallica etc) so it's all in the ear of the beholder
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