I really like the idea but the problem is with two other mp3 players I still have to keep everything on the pc anyway.

With the latest release of Jemplode, I can now copy freely between the Central, the Empeg, and the Karma, and I don't technically need to store the files on the PC any more. I still keep them there because I'm beta-testing the Karma and need to wipe it often for certain tests, but if I were just an ordinary user I wouldn't need to.

They need to make a product suite that has a home, car, and portable player in one package and have them all work together so you can rip and store everthing on the home player then copy to the protable and car players. I am guessing that is kind of what they were going for but it didn't work out.

Yeah, I agree. If the Central had taken off, we'd be plugging the empeg and the Karma (and all the other new Rio portables) directly into it right now. That was the dream. Ah well.