Thanks for the reply. I thought that should be it, But I keep trying and no command will work for me that way. Really I just need a way to change the volume up and down one notch from a bash script. and I tried " echo "x" > /proc/empeg_notify and I tried + in place of x nothing, also tried " " for play, and "n" for next track same. I have notify=1 in my config.ini .. I can do the whole popup 3 message and it works. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks