dude, you don't have to preach to me about it, this is the first itme i haven't had a sub/subs in my car.

I just think the mdbass is so good right now, taht i really can't justify the expense or space, or causing rattles.in fact, i just had a 10" sub stolen, along with 2 amps and a kenwood z919, which is what led me to the empeg :)

anyway, not that i don't think subs have a place, and i don't need ot be talked into one, i just don't want one right now, for many reasons.