I saw an older post about Commodore 64's...A lot of us grew up on the Commodore, and many of us owe our humble beginnings to the VIC-20 and Commodore 64...But I may be bias...after all, my name is David Whittaker. And as a side note, Jack Triemle (sp?) the Commodore founder is a Holocaust survivor...I have a small collection of Commodore quipment, so if anyone has any they want ot get rid of, let me know. No, I don't buy them. they are too cheap on ebay, if you want to sell them. And No, do do not collect any VIC-20's...I gave about 15 of them away...