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If ID proponents say that evidence for God exists through science, then it'd be really cool to see this exhange of ideas delt with scientifically bewteen those on eithre side rather than trying to attack/defend evolution.

I very much doubt ID proponents share your enthusiasm for real scientific debate You give them way too much credit.

I strongly agree with Bitt's and others' observation that all ID is saying is "I don't understand it, therefore it is a result of intelligent design and/or intervention". How long will the lack of understanding of a particular phenomenon persist?

Consider astronomy: before 15th century planets moved in complicate, intricate system of epicycles, obviosly a work of God. Kopernik (Copernicus) untangled them into circles, and 15th century 'ID-ers' burned Giordano Bruno at stake for supporting that untangling, but soon accepted it in the form of 'celestial spheres', as more precisely described by Kepler (who offered accurate kinematics, but not dynamics of planets' motion); then Newton described their dynamics in a single equation barely ten characters long, introducing gravity; Einstein offered explanation of gravity, one we are still trying to reconcile with our knowledge of sub-atomic world; the jury is still out on that one.

For caveman with freshly acquired capacity for wondering everything was clearly a work of god(s)/spirit(s)/...
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