The Pioneer I have is a double din touch screen, and places the ipod controls on that screen, so it's better than futzin' with an ipod while dialing the cell phone. However, all the Pioneer AVICs are din, so no install advantage over the empeg.

On most of the new cars I've seen ipod "integration" is an aux in plug on the dash. Welcome to 1975.

I'm looking to move to a place were I won't even have (or need) a car. I'm rather looking forward to that.