Like Tom said, there's very little chance that the new iPhone will come out on the 4th. Then again, they've never released a new iPhone this late in the year before, so who knows. But still, I can't imagine it being in stores the very same day they have the announcement.

I've also heard weird rumors of a Saturday launch, but I can't remember which day the rumor was for- the 8th or the 15th.

Either way, I'm really not looking forward to those lines. I don't want to wait in them, but it's time for an upgrade to my wife's 3GS, so I'll do it for her