Kind of on a side-note, today I was looking at the mp3 car player comparison that has been link to a few times here. I was trying to see what options there were out there for anyone who missed out on the empeg and it hit me that no matter how fancy anyone's hardware was (and it wasn't! ) no one could compete with the empeg/RioCar once you have to start managing 100's of songs! So I would disagree with the statement that SonicBlue is only a hardware seller.