I don't know why or how it happened but I looked at the display and it was dim checked settings and it was in car mode ala Hijack, I don't think it was that way before but I can't be sure. I switched it back to normal setting to run on AC mode and now I can ftp/http the player. The config.ini is still blank in Emplode but the player still seems to work as well as http. Weird.
Well thanks for the talk thru Tony.