I live in Royal Oak and work in Troy, so I'm not really a Detroit player, I just pretend by going to greektown once in awhile or watching the wings at the joe. If the red is actually somewhat orange, it may be just right in my pontiac grand prix. I didn't like the blue so I made a clear one out of anti-glare clear plastic from home depot. Now if I could only find a supplier of colored plastic with anti-glare coating...