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#109074 - 02/08/2002 16:31 Rio 10 GB stolen!
Batavus
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Registered: 02/08/2002
Posts: 4
Now this sucks more than a 220 volt hoover. My riocar was stolen! So. If anyone in the Colorado area sees one in a pawn shop that has my name "Philip Greer" on the digital info, let me know asap!

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#109075 - 02/08/2002 16:46 Re: Rio 10 GB stolen! [Re: Batavus]
Caps
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Registered: 09/07/2002
Posts: 52
Loc: Arizona, USA
That is horrible. Was your car broken into? How did it happen? And will your car insurance cover it?

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#109076 - 02/08/2002 17:08 Re: Rio 10 GB stolen! [Re: Batavus]
AndrewT
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Registered: 16/02/2002
Posts: 867
Loc: Oxford, UK
That's a damn shame, please accept my sincere condolences. I hope the police catch the SOB.

I believe you should inform tech. support of the serial no. and (arguably) post it here too in case it's offered for sale.

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#109077 - 02/08/2002 17:50 Re: Rio 10 GB stolen! [Re: Batavus]
mrfixit
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Registered: 14/06/2002
Posts: 337
The thing that really pisses me of about these things getting stolen is that the idoits probably dont even know what they are stealling. Just like "strangeloop" when his was stolen and then found smashed on the sidewalk a block from his house. Well.. nobody ever said theves were smart.
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#109078 - 02/08/2002 17:51 Re: Rio 10 GB stolen! [Re: Batavus]
drakino
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Registered: 08/06/1999
Posts: 7868
Ouch, will definitly keep my eye out for it, being in the Springs area here. Make sure to let support know the serial number.

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#109079 - 02/08/2002 18:37 Re: Rio 10 GB stolen! [Re: drakino]
jheathco
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Registered: 21/12/2001
Posts: 326
Loc: Mission Viejo, California
Intelligent people don't steal ... maybe he'll figure out he can't jam CDs into it like the other guy and it will end up on your front porch... pray.

Sorry about your loss
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#109080 - 04/08/2002 12:27 Re: Rio 10 GB stolen! [Re: Batavus]
Tim
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Registered: 25/04/2000
Posts: 1525
Loc: Arizona
Dude, that seriously sucks.

How about a story that might make you smile, or even laugh?

I have a 30g and when the prices dropped, I bought a 10g as a spare. I took the 10g out of the box long enough to try it out and make sure it worked - it has a grand total of one song loaded on it. After that I wrapped it up and put it somewhere for safe keeping. My job keeps me really, really, busy and I travel a lot. Somewhere in the mess I call a brain I forgot to store where I put it.

So I shipped the 30g off for repairs (the warranty ends this month) and went to replace it with the 10g. I managed to find the sled, cables, manual, original box, and cds, but no empeg. I can't remember where I put it. So far I went through the house twice looking for it, going for round three today. Makes me feel foolish - makes me wish I had somebody to blame besides myself too...

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#109081 - 04/08/2002 14:03 Re: Rio 10 GB stolen! [Re: Tim]
justinlarsen
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Registered: 31/12/2001
Posts: 1109
Loc: Petaluma, CA
hhaha ive done things like that before, you will get ur 30gig back then u will 3 months later you will go on another mission to find a power adatptor for an old scanner you never use then u will find it.
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#109082 - 05/08/2002 06:59 Re: Rio 10 GB stolen! [Re: Batavus]
Batavus
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Registered: 02/08/2002
Posts: 4
The problem I'm having is I can't find the serial number. I never did write it down - plus I thought I'd be able to get it from the winders software (I mostly used the Linux tools for managing it). But no-where in that software (nor it's logs) was the serial number. Luckily insurance is paying for it - USAA is REALLY good about stuff like that (but I do pay more in premiums than I would if I were with another company). Yeah, I doubt the loser that stole it has any idea what it is. He doesn't have the wiring harness, serial cables (easy for us to reproduce), AC adapter, software or any documentation to know how to hook it up. So the moron is stuck with a player that he probably has no idea that is has information about me (name, phone) encoded on it. I'm crossing my finger that whoever buys it can determine it's stolen - which will help track down the idiot that stole it. The police won't do much, simply write up a report and that's it. Oh well, at least insurance paid for the broken window, broken dashboard panels and replaced my steering column (he tried to steal the whole jeep but was too stupid to get around the steering lock - just busted up the mechanism where it was not longer drivable).

Thanks for keeping an eye out for me!

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#109083 - 05/08/2002 07:02 Re: Rio 10 GB stolen! [Re: Batavus]
Batavus
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Registered: 02/08/2002
Posts: 4
Oh - I have an idea, or maybe there is already a utility for this. How about some more security features on a RIO. Maybe some small utilty that forces one to re-produce a series of button pushes to 'unlock' the player before it can be used, kindof like a user defined password but using the rio buttons for the sequence. It would be a pain to have to do that every time one wanted to turn on the player and listen to music, but it would assist in keeping idiots from using them when stolen.

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#109084 - 05/08/2002 07:16 Re: Rio 10 GB stolen! [Re: Batavus]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Greetings!

That has been discussed a bit on the board. Basically, the ongoing support for it is the issue. People locking themselves out... Maybe a kernal hack in hijack...
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#109085 - 05/08/2002 07:22 Re: Rio 10 GB stolen! [Re: Batavus]
thinfourth2
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Registered: 13/04/2001
Posts: 1742
Loc: The land of the pale blue peop...
I doudt very much if a stolen player would ever get as far as booting the thing and if it was stolen by someone that knew what it was and how it worked could probably get round it as i imagine it would be difficult to beat the upgrade process that would flush hijack.

I would bet that anytime a player gets stolen is because it is a cool looking CD PLAYER not a mp3 player.

You need to concentrate on not having it stolen in the first place
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#109086 - 05/08/2002 07:44 Re: Rio 10 GB stolen! [Re: pgrzelak]
DeadFire
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Registered: 30/05/2002
Posts: 695
I think a security feature would be a nice idea. Basically, make the "Power Off" option in the main menu become a menu itself. Have options for regular standby and then "Standby & Lock". This way, getting locked out on accident would be less likely. And of course, to get it to boot up you'd have to know the code, which you could set yourself using, say, emplode, or even somewhere else in the player software's menus. Just don't forget your code.

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#109087 - 05/08/2002 08:09 Re: Rio 10 GB stolen! [Re: DeadFire]
BleachLPB
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Registered: 01/11/2001
Posts: 354
Loc: Maryland
These kernel hacks to improve player security are not at all likely to discourage a thief from stealing the player. As pointed out before, most any thief probably has no clue what the player is - if they are smart enough, yes, they could "read" the labels and marking on the player and look it up on the net, but in the case of Strangeloop's theft, the thief probably tossed the unit out the window after becoming frustrated with it or something, and it was subsequently smashed.

I realize the point here is centralized upon the event that if a thief steals the empeg, figures out what it is, and powers it on, then theretically the security feature would work. Then, once he realized its locked - then what? He could just throw it out - but if he did any research on the net already (ebay...), he might decide to sell it or keep it - how would the security behave if the player software was reloaded, for instance? In this case - one would hope that the thief would graciously return the empeg - maybe realizing that what he did was wrong - and that the player is useless to him.

While a security feature would be nice - I don't think I would ever use it. I typically hide my player from view if I am out somewhere - I usually stuff it under the seat or in the trunk. While parked at my apartment, I always bring it inside. Even at work I always bring the empeg in, but less because I'm afraid it will be stolen. I use it at work to stream tunes to whatever computer I'm sitting at.
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#109088 - 05/08/2002 08:17 Re: Rio 10 GB stolen! [Re: BleachLPB]
boxer
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Registered: 16/04/2002
Posts: 2011
Loc: Yorkshire UK
Do us a favour and only use the boot/trunk. Once even the dimmest of thieves sees the empty slot, the first place they look is under the seat.
...unless of course, you have a boot release on the dash, in which case take it with you.
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#109089 - 05/08/2002 09:24 Pre stolen empeg [Re: boxer]
thinfourth2
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Registered: 13/04/2001
Posts: 1742
Loc: The land of the pale blue peop...
There is my line of thinking that they ain't going to break into a car where someone has already broken in and stolen the stereo



It is a loom off an old stereo i had lying around it just pops into the slot of the empeg and hooks into the cage.

If you look into the car all you see is an empty slot with a big bunch of wires hanging out.

Also in the car in the boot i have a laptop security leash which goes into the security slot of theempeg if i am forced into leaving it in the boot.


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107943-MVC-001F.JPG (78 downloads)

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#109090 - 05/08/2002 09:26 Re: Pre stolen empeg [Re: thinfourth2]
bmiller
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Registered: 11/04/2001
Posts: 150
Loc: Sacramento, CA, USA
That's awesome! Bravo..

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#109091 - 05/08/2002 09:55 Re: Pre stolen empeg [Re: thinfourth2]
tms13
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Registered: 30/07/2001
Posts: 1115
Loc: Lochcarron and Edinburgh
I guess that parking your car on its side helps with the "everything worth having is already nicked" look...

(Or did you just take the photo wrong way up?)
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#109092 - 05/08/2002 10:11 Re: Pre stolen empeg [Re: tms13]
lastdan
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Registered: 31/05/2002
Posts: 352
Loc: santa cruz,ca
parking your car on its side saves a lot of space. just think if we all did it.

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#109093 - 05/08/2002 10:19 Re: Pre stolen empeg [Re: lastdan]
thinfourth2
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Registered: 13/04/2001
Posts: 1742
Loc: The land of the pale blue peop...
Yeah it is great just have to remember to only boot the empeg while it is right way up as that would be out of harddrive specs as well as bad for the drive rubbers
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#109094 - 05/08/2002 10:44 Re: Pre stolen empeg [Re: thinfourth2]
genixia
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Registered: 08/02/2002
Posts: 3411
Do you smash your window everytime you park your car in order to get the 'authentic' look?
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#109095 - 05/08/2002 11:36 Re: Pre stolen empeg [Re: thinfourth2]
P444UL_R
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Registered: 23/11/2000
Posts: 37
Loc: East Anglia (all of it)
This is the approach I use. Cover it up so no one suspects a thing. Its also easier on the conscious when you leave the unit in the car. Its a bit of a shame to make something so cool look like an air vent.
I got this from Halfords (a UK shop) a few months ago








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#109096 - 05/08/2002 11:43 Re: Pre stolen empeg [Re: P444UL_R]
Terminator
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Registered: 12/01/2000
Posts: 1079
Loc: Dallas, TX
Looks great! good idea.

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#109097 - 05/08/2002 11:50 Re: Pre stolen empeg [Re: Terminator]
JBjorgen
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Registered: 19/01/2002
Posts: 3584
Loc: Columbus, OH
I couldn't find those on their website...anyone know of a source for those online?
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#109098 - 05/08/2002 12:08 Re: Pre stolen empeg [Re: Terminator]
Waterman981
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Registered: 14/02/2002
Posts: 804
Loc: Salt Lake City, UT
I just use a pocket filler you can get at just about any car stereo place. It fits nicely in the sled. Check out my pic on riocar.org to see how mine fits. I got the idea from jimhogan.
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#109099 - 05/08/2002 17:27 Re: Pre stolen empeg [Re: thinfourth2]
acurasquirrel_
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Registered: 14/04/2002
Posts: 241
Bastard you stole my idea Ive been doing that since day one.
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#109100 - 05/08/2002 18:05 Re: Pre stolen empeg [Re: P444UL_R]
Aragon
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Registered: 17/05/2002
Posts: 148
Loc: Cape Town, South Africa
Good idea with the mock airvents. I do the same as Tony does with his - kept the coverplate that came with the car and just cover up the gaping hole whenever I remove my empeg. And I never leave my empeg in my car, not even at home.

Those airvents will probably deter most villains, but you could be unlucky and have a guy break-in on suspicion that a second airvent below the main one looks a bit fishy. Over here cars get busted into just to have a look under the seats for anything of value!


Regards,
Aragon

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#109101 - 05/08/2002 18:29 Re: Pre stolen empeg [Re: P444UL_R]
DeadFire
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Registered: 30/05/2002
Posts: 695
I'll be doing something similar. I have a Honda and the same plate Tony (tfabris) uses. But I'm going to modify that plate to be able to hide the empeg while it's in the dash, as well as be able to cover the space when the empeg isn't there.

The idea is that if I'm at a store or the movies or something, I don't have to worry about people seeing it and deciding to steal it because it looks cool. I want a completely stealth install.

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#109102 - 05/08/2002 18:35 Re: Pre stolen empeg [Re: DeadFire]
maczrool
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Registered: 13/01/2002
Posts: 1649
Loc: Louisiana, USA
Maybe something could be rigged up whereby the thief recieves a shock he won't soon forget everytime he touches the handle of the Empeg. Not sure if the electricity could be kept out of the Empeg circuitry, but it sure would be neat to have something like that.

Stu
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#109103 - 05/08/2002 18:53 Re: Pre stolen empeg [Re: maczrool]
DeadFire
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Registered: 30/05/2002
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Yes, an idea I very much liked when I first thought of it. Unfortunately, after a bit of research, I find that it is quite illegal here. I could be sued for it.

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