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#123994 - 05/11/2002 09:38 Re: COLD HEARTED RIO CAR THEFT-seeking new rio car [Re: sphengali]
genixia
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Registered: 08/02/2002
Posts: 3411
The engraving won't be perfect - there will be tiny pits in the surface of the metal where the engraver has cut, and these will hold the polish. You should be able to clean all of the polish off of the flat surface of the unit without removing all of it from the engraving, and the polish that remains in the pits will not rub off in normal use. Experiment - what's it going to cost?
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#123995 - 05/11/2002 09:40 Re: COLD HEARTED RIO CAR THEFT-seeking new rio car [Re: genixia]
genixia
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 08/02/2002
Posts: 3411
Or you could try some of your wife's/girlfriend's/sister's/mother's/own(!) nail polish - make sure you clean the flat surface off before it dries.
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#123996 - 05/11/2002 12:40 Re: COLD HEARTED RIO CAR THEFT-seeking new rio car [Re: genixia]
Heather
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Registered: 14/01/2002
Posts: 510
Loc: NY
Crayon works nicely. As do grease markers.
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#123997 - 05/11/2002 16:37 Re: COLD HEARTED RIO CAR THEFT-seeking new rio car [Re: genixia]
sphengali
journeyman

Registered: 22/10/2002
Posts: 82
Loc: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Or you could try some of your wife's/girlfriend's/sister's/mother's/own(!) nail polish - make sure you clean the flat surface off before it dries

Hmmmmm... well, mine ran out some time back - so maybe I'll have to use some of your Mom's instead!

Thanks for the tips you lot, I'll let you know the results once I have a go at it...
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#123998 - 05/11/2002 18:27 Re: COLD HEARTED RIO CAR THEFT-seeking new rio car [Re: V99]
BinaryC
journeyman

Registered: 15/01/2002
Posts: 58
In reply to:

Hijack can't do it alone because almost every Empeg has a non-routable address, so it can't phone anybody outside of the LAN.




That's funny, my computer has a non-routable ip address also, yet it manages to talk to servers on the internet all the time.

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#123999 - 05/11/2002 23:15 Re: COLD HEARTED RIO CAR THEFT-seeking new rio car [Re: BinaryC]
lectric
pooh-bah

Registered: 20/01/2002
Posts: 2085
Loc: New Orleans, LA
Nice catch, It could certainly dial out, but never be dialed up. Duh, I shoulda caught that......

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#124000 - 06/11/2002 01:58 Re: COLD HEARTED RIO CAR THEFT-seeking new rio car [Re: lectric]
V99
member

Registered: 12/01/2002
Posts: 192
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
Yes of course you're right, don't know what I was thinking.. But it doesn't really make much of a difference. Consider:

-USB or serial connection (What do you think the odds are a typical thief has broadband and a router)
-No router for it to talk thru (mine couldn't call anywhere if it tried)
-Static IP off their subnet or no DHCP server (thief connects, no mojo, tries USB instead, see above)
-Software upgrade erases Hijack
-I'm sure there's more

But let's assume it does reach the server.. what is it going to do?

-Give us the IP (quite likely dynamic and mostly meaningless, good luck getting PacBell to tell you who was using it at X time)
-Lock the empeg somehow (accidental tripping risk, software upgrade still clears, doesn't help you get it back and encourages them to destroy it)
-Tell the user that they've won a boat in the Police auction and to bring it down to the station to collect it (ow! my boating arm!)
-Your idea here

And don't forget we're still assuming that they know roughly what this thing they stole is, get it connected, find the software, etc before selling it off to some innocent person (and then IIRC the law isn't on our side even if you do find it.. wasn't there a discussion on this in one of the other theft threads?)

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#124001 - 06/11/2002 02:11 Re: COLD HEARTED RIO CAR THEFT-seeking new rio car [Re: genixia]
sphengali
journeyman

Registered: 22/10/2002
Posts: 82
Loc: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Tried the shoe polish trick - didn't do it.. the engraving isn't really very deep, and the polish just wipes right off - ah well.. not a big deal, it's engraved, Pelican box is getting equipped with locks and chain tomorrow for those times when you can't/won't take it out of the vehicle, say to a club, or going shopping for a few hours, etc... I feel safer already!
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#124002 - 06/11/2002 12:27 Re: COLD HEARTED RIO CAR THEFT-seeking new rio car [Re: V99]
loren
carpal tunnel

Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3826
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
I'd be willing to bet plenty of money that the guy who stole mine knew exactly what it was, and has since hooked it up and put his own music on it. He stole the sled and tuner and took care doing it... I'd wager he knew what he was getting. I don't know of any other thefts where it's seemed like they went after it because they knew what it was though. But damn would i kill to know that fukers IP.
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#124003 - 06/11/2002 13:49 Re: COLD HEARTED RIO CAR THEFT-seeking new rio car [Re: sphengali]
muzza
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Registered: 21/07/1999
Posts: 1765
Loc: Brisbane, Queensland, Australi...
I love the way the song playing on your empeg is Breaking the Law by Judas Priest
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#124004 - 06/11/2002 17:15 Re: COLD HEARTED RIO CAR THEFT-seeking new rio car [Re: muzza]
sphengali
journeyman

Registered: 22/10/2002
Posts: 82
Loc: Vancouver, BC, Canada
I love the way the song playing on your empeg is Breaking the Law by Judas Priest

Very cool, I was wondering if anyone was going to comment on that! Priest and I go waaay back, back when I was a punk-ass kid getting into trouble - ahem... "Breaking the law" was our theme song at the time - thought it quite appropriate that it be the display song for my stealth installation!

ah, I remember the days...
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#124005 - 06/11/2002 22:15 Re: COLD HEARTED RIO CAR THEFT-seeking new rio car [Re: JeepBastard]
FireFox31
pooh-bah

Registered: 19/09/2002
Posts: 2494
Loc: East Coast, USA
Wouldn't the "E-Mpeg, Phone Home" on sync feature be kind of Big Brother / Microsoft XP registration invasion of privacy? Sure, it's great that my IP and SN are being broadcast to a friendly server for security incase my player ever gets stolen, but what about when I use it myself? Do I really want my IP and sync times being sent out for someone else to view, store, and potentially have hacked and stolen from an insecure server? Sure, those times may not mean much to anyone, but they can show where I was at certain times (preciesly the reason I don't use dang EZPass on the highways). That may be an invasion of privacy.
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#124006 - 06/11/2002 23:10 Re: COLD HEARTED RIO CAR THEFT-seeking new rio car [Re: FireFox31]
V99
member

Registered: 12/01/2002
Posts: 192
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
I'd wager he knew what he was getting.

But didn't (wouldn't) know about it's E.T. features and avoid them?

Sure, those times may not mean much to anyone, but they can show where I was at certain times (preciesly the reason I don't use dang EZPass on the highways). That may be an invasion of privacy.

I don't see how you deciding to tell your Empeg to phone home is an invasion of anything, you're specifically enabling it... Just disable it or avoid synching immediately before planning on killing someone or robbing a bank.

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#124007 - 07/11/2002 11:36 Re: COLD HEARTED RIO CAR THEFT-seeking new rio car [Re: brian_nissley]
DomoKun
journeyman

Registered: 14/03/2002
Posts: 94
Loc: Pennsylvania
Hey guys. Check out my state of the art empeg theft deterrent system (see jpeg attachment) Hehe, seems to be working so far, no broken in windows as of yet


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#124008 - 07/11/2002 11:50 Re: COLD HEARTED RIO CAR THEFT-seeking new rio car [Re: V99]
jimhogan
carpal tunnel

Registered: 06/10/1999
Posts: 2591
Loc: Seattle, WA, U.S.A.
... Just disable it or avoid synching immediately before planning on killing someone or robbing a bank.

My strategy, and I think Tony would agree on this one, is to *always* remove the Empeg from the car (and put it in my long-term storage) before robbing a bank.

I mean, what if things go south, you wind up pulling 8-to-10 for armed robbery.... and the state *confiscates* your Empeg?!? Would that suck, or what?

Better to be safe than sorry.
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#124009 - 07/11/2002 12:01 Re: COLD HEARTED RIO CAR THEFT-seeking new rio car [Re: DomoKun]
robricc
carpal tunnel

Registered: 30/10/2000
Posts: 4931
Loc: New Jersey, USA
That is excellent. Now I can put that dead ATX power supply to some use!
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#124010 - 28/02/2003 06:08 Re: COLD HEARTED RIO CAR THEFT-seeking new rio car [Re: robricc]
Nobbie
journeyman

Registered: 12/02/2002
Posts: 59
Loc: Herts, UK
I know its dragging up an old thread thats been discussed to death, but.......

What about a simple PIN entry on boot-up in the Hi-Jack?.

Bit like a Bios password but entered numerically from the remote??
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#124011 - 28/02/2003 06:26 Re: COLD HEARTED RIO CAR THEFT-seeking new rio car [Re: Nobbie]
revlmwest
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Registered: 05/06/2002
Posts: 497
Loc: Hartsville, South Carolina for...
Some sort of password has been discussed before... however pin's assume the thief is intelligent enought to know what head units have such technology and what units do not. I doubt it would do any good, since the majority, if not all, empeg losses have been smash and grabs. It might make the thief mad but it won't help you keep your empeg....
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#124012 - 28/02/2003 09:48 Re: COLD HEARTED RIO CAR THEFT-seeking new rio car [Re: revlmwest]
Nobbie
journeyman

Registered: 12/02/2002
Posts: 59
Loc: Herts, UK
Looks like a Rotwieler called Lennox it is then!!!
hehe
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#124013 - 28/02/2003 10:22 Re: COLD HEARTED RIO CAR THEFT-seeking new rio car [Re: Nobbie]
peter
carpal tunnel

Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4180
Loc: Cambridge, England
Looks like a Rotwieler called Lennox it is then!!!

That might prove counterproductive...

Peter

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#124014 - 28/02/2003 10:24 Re: COLD HEARTED RIO CAR THEFT-seeking new rio car [Re: Nobbie]
revlmwest
addict

Registered: 05/06/2002
Posts: 497
Loc: Hartsville, South Carolina for...
alas, my car is to small for such a theft deterent. So I decided to go with a mini pin instead....


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Edited by revlmwest (28/02/2003 10:25)
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#124015 - 28/02/2003 10:25 Re: COLD HEARTED RIO CAR THEFT-seeking new rio car [Re: revlmwest]
Nobbie
journeyman

Registered: 12/02/2002
Posts: 59
Loc: Herts, UK
lmao!!
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#124016 - 28/02/2003 11:19 Re: COLD HEARTED RIO CAR THEFT-seeking new rio car [Re: sphengali]
suomi35
enthusiast

Registered: 16/02/2002
Posts: 290
Loc: Denver, CO
I thought of getting mine engraved too...but what if the a$$hole slaps some kind of sticker over that?
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#124017 - 28/02/2003 11:19 Re: COLD HEARTED RIO CAR THEFT-seeking new rio car [Re: revlmwest]
andym
carpal tunnel

Registered: 17/01/2002
Posts: 3996
Loc: Manchester UK
In reply to:

So I decided to go with a mini pin instead....



He looks rather surprised
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#124018 - 28/02/2003 13:38 Re: COLD HEARTED RIO CAR THEFT-seeking new rio car [Re: andym]
canuckInOR
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Registered: 13/02/2002
Posts: 3212
Loc: Portland, OR
He looks rather surprised


The thermometer is off the bottom of the picture.

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