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#12553 - 02/08/2000 04:48 4GB Mark 1 for sale - prefer Germany/EU
Derek
addict

Registered: 16/08/1999
Posts: 453
Loc: NRW, Germany
Hi,

I am living in Duisburg, Germany and would love someone to buy my 4GB Mark 1 empeg! As the front panel is slightly damaged I will replace it with what ever colour you prefer if you get back to me before I order a Mark 2, otherwise I will be selling it with a (new) blue front (face it, blue looks cooler anyway :-) ). Reply to this posting if you are interested. Price is negotiable. Will be sold complete in original packaging with ALL accessories, current software loaded and newest version of emplode burnt on a CD.

(list 6284, S/N 00299, 4 gig blue)
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#12554 - 04/08/2000 00:36 Re: 4GB Mark 1 for sale - prefer Germany/EU [Re: Derek]
anti
member

Registered: 10/07/2000
Posts: 117
Loc: BaWue, Germany, Europe
Ungefaehre Preisvorstellung ?

(For our non german friends:)
Price range asked ?

anti


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#12555 - 04/08/2000 02:28 Re: 4GB Mark 1 for sale - prefer Germany/EU [Re: anti]
Derek
addict

Registered: 16/08/1999
Posts: 453
Loc: NRW, Germany
I've been offered 1400,-DM for it so far, which I really don't think is enough since I paid just over 2500,-DM (new) for it in November last year. Ideally I'd like 2000,-DM for it, but I'm open to offers!

(list 6284, S/N 00299, 4 gig blue)
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#12556 - 04/08/2000 03:03 Re: 4GB Mark 1 for sale - prefer Germany/EU [Re: Derek]
teemcbee
addict

Registered: 04/02/2000
Posts: 687
For those who don't know - 1$ is about 2 DM (not exactly but something close to that).

TeeMcBee
Reg#948 - already ordered a Mk2.
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#12557 - 04/08/2000 04:02 Re: 4GB Mark 1 for sale - prefer Germany/EU [Re: teemcbee]
Henno
addict

Registered: 15/07/1999
Posts: 568
Loc: Meije, Netherlands
For those who don't know - 1$ is about 2 DM

Yep, but keep in mind that we Europeans also have to pay hefty sales tax. To compare with prices in the US and other places, you'll need to add between 15 and 20% sales tax(depending on the European country one lives in).

Contrary to the practice in the US with its liberal out-of-state tax exemption, sales tax is due on anything purchased commercially and on imports (new or used) and ranges between 15 and 20%. Sales between private consumers residing within the EU (who already paid the tax) are not taxed again

Thus our (consumer) price for a US$ 1099 Mk2 is US$ 1,300.
Derek is willing to let his Mk1 go at DM 2000 (US$ 1000)



Henno
mk2 nr 6
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#12558 - 04/08/2000 09:25 Re: 4GB Mark 1 for sale - prefer Germany/EU [Re: Henno]
TommyE
enthusiast

Registered: 08/06/1999
Posts: 356
Loc: NORWAY
Tax to Norway = 24%.... sucks....


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#12559 - 04/08/2000 10:25 Re: 4GB Mark 1 for sale - prefer Germany/EU [Re: TommyE]
eternalsun
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 09/09/1999
Posts: 1721
Loc: San Jose, CA
How does anyone in Europe can anything done with all these taxes?

Calvin


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#12560 - 04/08/2000 14:25 Re: 4GB Mark 1 for sale - prefer Germany/EU [Re: eternalsun]
schofiel
carpal tunnel

Registered: 25/06/1999
Posts: 2993
Loc: Wareham, Dorset, UK
"With Great Difficulty"

One of the few remaining Mk1 owners... #00015
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#12561 - 04/08/2000 16:22 Re: 4GB Mark 1 for sale - prefer Germany/EU [Re: eternalsun]
rob
carpal tunnel

Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
Norway isn't actually in Europe - at least, not in the European Community. The tax there is very high, but so are costs in general, and salaries, and the standard of living. I spent some time in Bergen and loved the place - although it's disconcerting that everyone speaks perfect English with strong American accents!

In general, taxes are higher in Europe (in comparison with the USA) because social welfare systems tend to be more developed here. It has to be said that beaurocracies are also highly developed here, and suck in a great deal of money for little benefit.

Rob



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#12562 - 04/08/2000 18:12 Re: 4GB Mark 1 for sale - prefer Germany/EU [Re: eternalsun]
TommyE
enthusiast

Registered: 08/06/1999
Posts: 356
Loc: NORWAY
I'm wondering too, from time to time.
But where can one go?? Home sweet home.
I'll tell you something: 34% of my wages goes to taxes. After that you pay 24% tax on everything you buy. (food, clothes, empegs, etc.)
Whats left??? nothing to buy a MKII for right now anyway.

TommyE


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#12563 - 04/08/2000 18:14 Re: 4GB Mark 1 for sale - prefer Germany/EU [Re: rob]
TommyE
enthusiast

Registered: 08/06/1999
Posts: 356
Loc: NORWAY
It is Europe too, but not the EC (luckily I think).

So what did you do in Bergen Rob? Holidays, school or work??
You seem to know abit about Norway!

TommyE





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#12564 - 04/08/2000 23:50 Re: 4GB Mark 1 for sale - prefer Germany/EU [Re: rob]
Henno
addict

Registered: 15/07/1999
Posts: 568
Loc: Meije, Netherlands
beaurocracies are also highly developed here, and suck in a great deal of money for little benefit.

Sure?
At least none of my shipments ended up being delayed by customs
(and this while TNT manages to deliver more quickly to the States than 300 miles into Europe )

Henno
mk2 nr 6
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#12565 - 05/08/2000 04:57 Re: 4GB Mark 1 for sale - prefer Germany/EU [Re: Henno]
rob
carpal tunnel

Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
> TNT manages to deliver more quickly to the States than 300 miles into Europe

Nah, TNT can only manage 2 day delivery to the US (next day to New York, though) and they subcontract that. We use FedEx to the USA, who manage before 10:30am next day (if customs let them!).

TNT give next day delivery to most of Western Europe.

Rob



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#12566 - 05/08/2000 05:00 Re: 4GB Mark 1 for sale - prefer Germany/EU [Re: TommyE]
rob
carpal tunnel

Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
I was only there for about a week, installing a Q2000 lasertag site. It was one of the more enjoyable installations we did, as it was in a cyber cafe and we got to help ourselves to their net connection and pizza ovens all night :-)

I've been asked to go back there for a servicing visit next month, but unfortunately I don't think my empeg schedule is going to allow that.

Rob



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#12567 - 05/08/2000 07:39 Re: 4GB Mark 1 for sale - prefer Germany/EU [Re: rob]
Henno
addict

Registered: 15/07/1999
Posts: 568
Loc: Meije, Netherlands
TNT give next day delivery to most of Western Europe.

You may be right here: I may be mixing up days.
Now when I think about it, I believe my Mk2 showed up on Monday, after you shipped it on Friday, which does qualify as 'next day', doesn't it.
(must have been friend Murphy that caused you to miss the Thursday shipping date on most of the first Mk2s shipments

Henno
mk2 nr 6
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#12568 - 01/09/2000 05:03 Re: 4GB Mark 1 for sale - prefer Germany/EU [Re: TommyE]
Mark Petersen
journeyman

Registered: 19/09/1999
Posts: 97
Loc: Denmark, Kbh Ø
And even worse denmark 25% tax and we are even a member of EC. :-(
and we also have one of the higest incom taxes mine is 47% :-(
and in top of that ther is a 180% registration fee on car's autch


Mark
wait for mk III with a USB Host/slave
(USB->GPS)(USB->Bluetooth)(USB->You name it)

Edited by Mark Petersen on 1/9/00 01:08 PM.

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#12569 - 01/09/2000 10:21 Re: 4GB Mark 1 for sale - prefer Germany/EU [Re: Mark Petersen]
eternalsun
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 09/09/1999
Posts: 1721
Loc: San Jose, CA
Time to move to America. That's highway robbery.

Calvin


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#12570 - 02/09/2000 04:32 Re: 4GB Mark 1 for sale - prefer Germany/EU [Re: eternalsun]
rob
carpal tunnel

Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
..on the other hand, Denmark is one of the froodiest countries around - you get what you pay for!

Rob
(Don't flame me, I love America really! OK, I should qualify that better, I love California!)


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#12571 - 13/02/2001 05:46 Re: 4GB Mark 1 for sale - prefer Germany/EU [Re: Derek]
Derek
addict

Registered: 16/08/1999
Posts: 453
Loc: NRW, Germany
Hi Guys! Am still looking for a buyer! Will be in New Zealand (home :-) ) 'til Sunday evening if anyone here is interested (phone 021 299-2290) and will be in Detroit/NE USA from 2nd 'til 13th March, so can also deliver to someone in that area if you are interested! Otherwise you will catch me in Germany as mentioned in my original post.

(list 6284, Mk1 S/N 00299 4GB blue [for sale]. Mk2 S/N 080000094 6GB blue)
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#12572 - 22/02/2001 15:35 Re: 4GB Mark 1 for sale - prefer Germany/EU [Re: Derek]
veixl
journeyman

Registered: 26/08/2000
Posts: 98
Loc: Tartu, Estonia, Europe
I payd 650 EUR (1270 DEM) for my 20GB MK1 in december. Thats why you are still selling it :)

Veiko
[email protected]

MK1 #317 - 20GB green
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#12573 - 23/02/2001 11:15 Re: 4GB Mark 1 for sale - prefer Germany/EU [Re: veixl]
Derek
addict

Registered: 16/08/1999
Posts: 453
Loc: NRW, Germany
Hey, I never said how much I want for it! I'm open to offers ... Your empeg was very cheap though. I would have bought it for that!

(list 6284, Mk1 S/N 00299 4GB blue [for sale]. Mk2 S/N 080000094 6GB blue)
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