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#135477 - 16/01/2003 18:14 Re: Bugg blatt voting - take two [Re: BartDG]
rob
carpal tunnel

Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
This is one of the reasons to get 2.0 out of the way - so we can move on to 3.0 and the all new all singing all dancing audio filter network. It should never glitch, short of hitting the player with a sledge hammer.

Rob

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#135478 - 16/01/2003 18:16 Re: Bugg blatt voting - take two [Re: rob]
wfaulk
carpal tunnel

Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
I would prefer that it left the singing to the recording artists. Feel free to let the Flancedoor people continue dancing, though.
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#135479 - 16/01/2003 19:09 Re: Bugg blatt voting - take two [Re: wfaulk]
tonyc
carpal tunnel

Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
Feel free to let the Flancedoor people continue dancing, though.

And hopefully in a future release, dancing in sync with the beat of the songs, as has been suggested in the past.
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#135480 - 16/01/2003 21:27 Re: Bugg blatt voting - take two [Re: rob]
canuckInOR
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Registered: 13/02/2002
Posts: 3212
Loc: Portland, OR
I'd vote, but I hadn't noticed *any* of those bugs.



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#135481 - 16/01/2003 21:58 Re: Bugg blatt voting - take two [Re: canuckInOR]
jimhogan
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Registered: 06/10/1999
Posts: 2591
Loc: Seattle, WA, U.S.A.

I'd vote, but I hadn't noticed *any* of those bugs.


Me neitha! Sniff!
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#135482 - 16/01/2003 22:21 Re: Bugg blatt voting - take two [Re: jimhogan]
Daria
carpal tunnel

Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
When I insert a song with jemplode I do get a stutter, which I assume is close enough to the visuals glitch that I voted for that one. Honestly, none on the list seemed to be any that I had.

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#135483 - 16/01/2003 22:44 Re: Bugg blatt voting - take two [Re: canuckInOR]
msaeger
carpal tunnel

Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
You can vote for the one that sounds hardest to fix.
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#135484 - 17/01/2003 05:30 Re: Bugg blatt voting - take two [Re: rob]
rob
carpal tunnel

Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
Voting is now closed, and the results are:

Emplode: emplode consumes 100% CPU during download/synchronise
28 (26%)
Roger Lipscombe

Emplode: USB connection under Win XP
19 (18%)
Mike Crowe

Player: RDS AF should scan and re-tune in the background
17 (16%)
Toby Duckworth

Player: Volume Ramp doesn't work after power fail
12 (11%)
Toby Duckworth

Player: Need a "button code" for "Prev Visual"
8 (07%)
Toby Duckworth

Player: No pause icon after reboot
7 (06%)
Peter Hartley

Player: Distortion in EQ with certain settings
6 (05%)
John Graley

Player: Settings not retained between menu invocations
3 (02%)
John Graley

Player: Player screen flickers when inserting/enqueing tracks from emplode
3 (02%)
Mike Crowe

Emplode: Plays MP3 hyperlink is broken
1 (00%)
Roger Lipscombe

Player: Clock visual still truncated in 2.0b11
1 (00%)
Toby Duckworth

Congratulations Roger, you get a bottle of wine for your services to synchronisation.

Rob

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#135485 - 17/01/2003 05:48 Re: Bugg blatt voting - take two [Re: jimhogan]
djc
enthusiast

Registered: 08/08/2000
Posts: 351
Loc: chicago
I'd vote, but I hadn't noticed *any* of those bugs.

Me neitha! Sniff!


really? you've never noticed a missing pause icon on reboot, or that the volume ramp was jerky at best in the car? not exactly earth-shaking bugs, but it's hard to imagine missing them if you use your player much.

--dan.

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#135486 - 17/01/2003 06:18 Re: Bugg blatt voting - take two [Re: rob]
genixia
Carpal Tunnel

Registered: 08/02/2002
Posts: 3411
I feel for Toby - beaten by the British "First past the post" voting system...
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#135487 - 17/01/2003 07:59 Re: Bugg blatt voting - take two [Re: djc]
frog51
pooh-bah

Registered: 09/08/2000
Posts: 2091
Loc: Edinburgh, Scotland
I use mine every day in the car to and from work and at home in the evening and have never noticed a missing pause icon - I guess I never turn the empeg off when paused.


And I never thought of the volume step as a bug, it gives me enough time to kill it if it is going to be too loud, or it just launches as I get out of my driveway, thus making the loud pedal work better
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#135488 - 17/01/2003 08:27 Re: Bugg blatt voting - take two [Re: rob]
blitz
addict

Registered: 20/11/2001
Posts: 455
Loc: Texas
The voting seems rather unfair to me. I understand the contest rules. If however, you look at the number of votes per bug fixer rather than per bug, Toby Duckworth should have won. Will you consider at least a beer or a really cheap bottle of wine for him?

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#135489 - 17/01/2003 09:36 Re: Bugg blatt voting - take two [Re: blitz]
Anonymous
Unregistered


Duckworth should demand a recount.

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#135490 - 17/01/2003 11:25 Re: Bugg blatt voting - take two [Re: blitz]
Daria
carpal tunnel

Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
Yeah, besides, who uses Emplode?


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#135491 - 17/01/2003 12:05 Re: Bugg blatt voting - take two [Re: Daria]
andygjones
journeyman

Registered: 30/07/2001
Posts: 63
The only think that causes me any problems, is the sony stalk interface. I get quite a long delay sometimes when using it. It seems to be ok when im using the tuner (although i havnt used it much so cant confirm that). Also seems to do it whether i have HiJack installed or not.

Do many other people have this problem?
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#135492 - 17/01/2003 13:06 Re: Bugg blatt voting - take two - stalk issues [Re: andygjones]
number6
old hand

Registered: 30/04/2001
Posts: 745
Loc: In The Village or sometimes: A...

Yep, can confirm that problem.
I use the Stalk interface almost exclusively and its a bit erratic at times in terms of responding to my requests, sometimes its really fast and others really slow/misses button preses.


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#135493 - 18/01/2003 00:23 Re: Bugg blatt voting - take two [Re: andygjones]
jarob10
enthusiast

Registered: 07/01/2002
Posts: 274
Loc: Stockport, UK
I have leanred to live with the button response delay since getting my tuner.

If this is a software issue, then its the #1 bug for me.

I have a feeling its a hardware / signal translation issue, but I have absolutley no evidence to support this theory
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#135494 - 18/01/2003 00:27 Re: Bugg blatt voting - take two [Re: andygjones]
Daria
carpal tunnel

Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
long delay between what and what? pressing a button and having the event acted on?

the stalk interface plugs into the tuner, right? perhaps the data being passed when you're in tuner mode from the tuner to the empeg has to flush or something before events from the stalk get flushed, and that's what you're waiting for?

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#135495 - 18/01/2003 01:03 Re: Bugg blatt voting - take two [Re: Daria]
number6
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Registered: 30/04/2001
Posts: 745
Loc: In The Village or sometimes: A...
In reply to:


long delay between what and what? pressing a button and having the event acted on?




Yep, thats it in a nutshell, happens in player mode almost exclusively - when I'm in tuner mode the buttons work fine I think.

And thats whether you're on AM or FM band.
I use AM occasionally when the cricket is one as thats the band they broadcast on - and also where the BBC World Service Radio is, otherwise its moslly FM.

The buttons I use most are next and prev track (inner ring on Stalk), and I skip through songs I don't like.

I have considered the possibility that the empeg is trying to cache the new song you just skipped to - but the buttons seem to run slow even when the song you're playing is well and truly cached from disk as you've been listening to it for half its length without touching any buttons.
[and I have the disk icon active on my player so I know when its accessing the disk and when its not].

I also considered that the stalk buttons may be wearing out or something, but I find that other buttons go slow too [like mute] which I use once or twice a day (max), the "source switching" button (on the end of the stalk) hardly gets used either and its also slow, so I doubt its the particular mechanism wearing out in the stalk and getting sloppy or not switching properly.

I do notice that it tends to be most erratic when the car is warm - so maybe the temperature is making the resistors go "off value" more than is expected, thus causing the tuner to read the wrong resistor values - this would however result in the odd "wrong button" - and that happens very rarely in my case.
But we are not talking major heat here - player says 30-45 degrees C and my car is air conditioned so if the stalk was getting to hot, the cold air from the vent would cool it down within minutes and make it work "better" - but I don't see that either.

The whole stalk control feels sluggish sometimes, and not at other times.

When you use the front panel buttons they respond pretty quickly so its something to do with stalk processing.

I run Hijack on 2.0B13 - with no IR mappings and my Hijack is fairly recent (about 4 behind the current I think).

I think it was better on 2.0B7.










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#135496 - 18/01/2003 05:28 Re: Bugg blatt voting - take two [Re: number6]
andygjones
journeyman

Registered: 30/07/2001
Posts: 63
Im pretty sure its a software issue. I remember when i first got my tuner (as soon as it was released). I cant remember which version of the software i was running but it worked perfectly for quite a while.
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#135497 - 18/01/2003 06:40 Re: Bugg blatt voting - take two [Re: rob]
JimKnopf
new poster

Registered: 09/06/2000
Posts: 22
Loc: Germany
>Player: RDS AF should scan and re-tune in the background
>17 (16%)
>Toby Duckworth

Toby you're my hero!

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#135498 - 19/01/2003 15:23 Re: Bugg blatt voting - take two [Re: blitz]
rob
carpal tunnel

Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
The voting seems rather unfair to me. I understand the contest rules. If however, you look at the number of votes per bug fixer rather than per bug, Toby Duckworth should have won.

He'll get over it.

Rob

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#135499 - 19/01/2003 15:57 Re: Bugg blatt voting - take two [Re: rob]
andy
carpal tunnel

Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 5916
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
Not often we see the cold, heartless, managerial side of Rob's personality...

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#135500 - 19/01/2003 18:33 Re: Bugg blatt voting - take two [Re: rob]
smu
old hand

Registered: 30/07/2000
Posts: 879
Loc: Germany (Ruhrgebiet)
What´s the contact info for your favorite pub again? I might want to sent some money over for a pint or two (who might be receiving it/those is up to me exclusively, of course).

cu,
sven.
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#135501 - 19/01/2003 19:26 Re: Bugg blatt voting - take two [Re: smu]
number6
old hand

Registered: 30/04/2001
Posts: 745
Loc: In The Village or sometimes: A...
Try This Link for "The Wrestlers" Pub
(where the Empeg chaps seem to practise their product design,drinking and curry eating sessions).



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#135502 - 22/01/2003 00:18 Re: Bugg blatt voting - take two [Re: Daria]
ADent
stranger

Registered: 04/02/2002
Posts: 48
Loc: Denver, Colorado
I vote for fixing the seek tool pointer on tracks more than 4hr 39 min. Here.

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#135503 - 22/01/2003 06:37 Re: Bugg blatt voting - take two [Re: number6]
boxer
pooh-bah

Registered: 16/04/2002
Posts: 2011
Loc: Yorkshire UK
"The Wrestlers" Pub

No Shepherd Neames: God's own beer, not my idea of a pub!
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#135504 - 22/01/2003 07:35 Re: Bugg blatt voting - take two [Re: number6]
tman
carpal tunnel

Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
Oh no! Now I want a curry because of you!

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