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#148711 - 16/03/2003 12:59 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: mlord]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
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Loc: Canada
And here is the knob LED soldered into position, and the daughterboard back in place:


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#148712 - 16/03/2003 13:01 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: mlord]
mlord
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Loc: Canada
This is what it all looks like with Brians translucent button caps on top:


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Edited by mlord (16/03/2003 13:02)

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#148713 - 16/03/2003 13:03 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: mlord]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
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And, finally, for the record, here is the underside of the IR daughterboard, before I soldered it back into position. This might be useful to somebody someday..


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Edited by mlord (16/03/2003 13:04)

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#148714 - 16/03/2003 14:29 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: tfabris]
ricin
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Registered: 19/06/2000
Posts: 1495
Loc: US: CA
KEWL.


So I'm not the only one that uses that. Kewl.




Edit:
Hmm... The [image] ([img]) tag is actually checked for a valid image extension in the URL.

Test:



Edited by ricin (16/03/2003 14:43)
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#148715 - 16/03/2003 14:44 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: ricin]
tfabris
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So I'm not the only one that uses that. Kewl.
I have a friend who actually deliberately pronouces it differently than "cool".
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#148716 - 16/03/2003 14:50 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: tfabris]
ricin
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Ok, I don't pronounce it differently, but I've been spelling it that way since my Local BBS days. I do have another friend that uses it and pronounces it "KOO-el," though.
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#148717 - 16/03/2003 15:01 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: tfabris]
phi144
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Loc: New Hampshire, USA
Shutter...
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#148718 - 16/03/2003 16:04 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: Waterman981]
mlord
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Nice dremel job! Those are going to look very nice when filled in and lit up!

Note the wonders of auto-exposure cameras.. Those are probably light grey buttons on a white piece of paper, but the camera has tried to average it all out to 18% grey, so the buttons ended up black and the paper ended up gray..

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#148719 - 16/03/2003 16:35 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: mlord]
Waterman981
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Registered: 14/02/2002
Posts: 804
Loc: Salt Lake City, UT
Thanks! and yup about the picture... I think if I had the macro zoom attachment it would help, but still.... I was just trying to get them close up and in focus! I have been working on the sides more with my dremel, and it's getting better, but it does take time and patience. I really don't want to screw these up.
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#148720 - 16/03/2003 17:15 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: genixia]
foxtrot_xray
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Registered: 03/03/2002
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Loc: Atlanta, Georgia

I'm still hunting through the linux kernel for the 'time machine' code that must be there.

You found it. You just don't know it yet.

Me.
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#148721 - 16/03/2003 17:17 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: mlord]
foxtrot_xray
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Registered: 03/03/2002
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I jhate sounding like a broken record but..

I'm Game for it, of course! I think the pinhole lights would look good with the toggles in my Mini.

Me.
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#148722 - 17/03/2003 04:11 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: mlord]
LTJBukem
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I've kept holding out for some flourescent material buttons, as they could be self installed.

Did anyone ever cast any ?
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#148723 - 17/03/2003 05:55 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: mlord]
mlord
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Mmm.. I just noticed on Brians Button Kit site that there is now a third version of his excellent Knob-LED board there. Maybe he's ramping up production again (?).

Cheers

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#148724 - 17/03/2003 06:13 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: mlord]
BartDG
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Gee, I hope so, I've been on the waiting list for more than a year now.

OTOH, where have you seen this? I've checked the site myself, and I did not find any information about this. It also states it hasn't been updated since may last year.
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#148725 - 17/03/2003 06:31 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: BartDG]
pgrzelak
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The third knob board is a redesign of the original 4LED board. It has been around for a while - I remember seeing it months ago. In fact, at the time, I thought it was based on feedback from the installers (you included, Mark) that the original 4LED design was harder to work with, based on placement of the tracks.

I have not seen any changes on the site recently, or for the last few months for that matter. Has anyone heard from Brian recently?
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#148726 - 17/03/2003 11:22 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: fusto]
elvis
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Registered: 18/01/2002
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Loc: Arizona USA
Your sig...

You forgot WIND you need WIND!!!!!!
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#148727 - 18/03/2003 09:36 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: elvis]
frog51
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I guess it could be a tall motor driven ship
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#148728 - 18/03/2003 12:49 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: elvis]
fusto
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Bah... Wind is a pain in the arse. Dies right when you need it, and kicks up a fuss when youre totally un-prepared.
Stars are at least a fairly constant variable. Unless of course its foggy...
Heres a windy day crossing the pacific.


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#148729 - 18/03/2003 12:50 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: fusto]
wfaulk
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Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Dude, your ocean's tilted.
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#148730 - 18/03/2003 12:53 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: fusto]
elvis
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Aye cap'n. thas what it's all about!
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#148731 - 18/03/2003 14:52 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: wfaulk]
fusto
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Dude, your ocean's tilted.
Yeah...
And technically it should be tilting the other way!
We were dealing with some serious swells that day.
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#148732 - 19/03/2003 11:12 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: mlord]
lopan
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Registered: 28/01/2002
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Loc: Manassas VA
Don't lose hope just yet guys... In the final stages here... just trying to produce without the tiny bubbles...


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#148733 - 19/03/2003 11:14 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: lopan]
lopan
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Another...


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#148734 - 19/03/2003 14:05 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: lopan]
tfabris
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just trying to produce without the tiny bubbles...
Great. Now I've got Don Ho stuck in my head. Thanks.

(The mold looks great, glad to see someone else giving this a shot. I love Brian's work, but he's clearly backlogged and it'd be nice to see others producing, too.)
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#148735 - 19/03/2003 14:18 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: tfabris]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
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Loc: Raleigh, NC US
tiny bubbles...
Great. Now I've got Don Ho stuck in my head. Thanks.
I don't know if this will make it better or worse, but try thinking of the Willie Nelson version.

At least it wasn't Mele Kalikimaka.
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#148736 - 19/03/2003 14:25 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: wfaulk]
fusto
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At least it wasn't Mele Kalikimaka.
dammit!!
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#148737 - 19/03/2003 16:42 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: tfabris]
lopan
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Yeah I emailed Brian just to make sure he didn't mind, his response left me at the conclusion that he wasn't really going to be doing this any more... at least any time soon. So I got his blessing.
Things left to do: Get the bubbles out (at least not so noticeable) which I think I'm almost there and make a mold of the mold outta plastic so I don't have to go casting buttons everytime I wear my mold out... that and if I start to fall behind I can always just whip out another mold quickly and double production.
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#148738 - 19/03/2003 17:30 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: lopan]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31597
Loc: Seattle, WA
his response left me at the conclusion that he wasn't really going to be doing this any more... at least any time soon.
Sorry to hear that! But glad to know you're carrying on the tradition.

Things left to do: Get the bubbles out (at least not so noticeable) which I think I'm almost there
Did Brian give you any tips? His buttons (at least the ones I've seen) are bubble-free.

Do you have any ideas about what pigments to use for possibly doing translucent white or translucent gray buttons that diffuse the light more across their surface?
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#148739 - 19/03/2003 17:33 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: lopan]
JrFaust
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Registered: 07/02/2002
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Loc: New Richmond, WI
Dude!!! Sweet will you be making the full kit LED's, buttons, and stuff or just the buttons? Either way I'll buy a set when you're ready.

I'll take the blue ones...
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#148740 - 19/03/2003 17:35 Re: Backlit "pinhole" buttons, anyone? [Re: JrFaust]
tfabris
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Posts: 31597
Loc: Seattle, WA
Love the new avatar, JrFaust. I'm a bit concerned that the character is fondling his empeg in the nude, but... to each his own, I suppose.
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