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#151721 - 30/03/2003 23:14 Another broken nipple!
jbauer
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Registered: 08/05/2000
Posts: 1429
Loc: San Francisco, CA
Hi All,

So I dropped my empeg from about a foot off the ground (in the empeg bag) and guess what? I BROKE MY NIPPLE... Ouch that hurts.

Anyone have a spare display to sell me? I already emailed support, but am looking for a US based alternative. My goal is to get this fixed ASAP...

Also, can anyone in the Bay area help me with the soldering of the new display in when I get it? I'd gladly pay for the time and expertise with beer, dinner, cash and/or any combination of those things... ;-)

- Thanx in advance!
- Jon

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#151722 - 31/03/2003 06:04 Re: Another broken nipple! [Re: jbauer]
JeepBastard
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Registered: 08/09/1999
Posts: 364
Loc: Brooklyn
when you do the new display, maybe you should pad the nipple. I did to mine, and i havent had any ill effects.
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#151723 - 31/03/2003 10:54 Re: Another broken nipple! [Re: JeepBastard]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
maybe you should pad the nipple
Padding would only be useful if the nipple broke from striking something. I don't believe that it's striking anything when it breaks from a drop, I think it's just the sudden deceleration and the angle of the G forces. I fear that adding additional "stuff" around the nipple would increase its chances of breaking rather than decreasing them.
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#151724 - 31/03/2003 11:10 Re: Another broken nipple! [Re: tfabris]
BartDG
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Registered: 20/05/2001
Posts: 2616
Loc: Bruges, Belgium
I've always wondered if installing Brian's lighted buttons kit doesn't increase the chance of the nipple breaking since the pcb around the shaft of the knob sits so close to the nipple.

As seen here : (I hope Brian doesn't mind me linking directly to his site)
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#151725 - 31/03/2003 11:20 Re: Another broken nipple! [Re: BartDG]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Actually, the other versions of the knob board with 4LEDs is even closer to the nipple than that!
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#151726 - 31/03/2003 11:25 Re: Another broken nipple! [Re: pgrzelak]
andym
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Registered: 17/01/2002
Posts: 3996
Loc: Manchester UK
Hmmm, I'm beginning to worry. By the looks of it, even driving over a pot-hole in the road could break the nipple if that LED board is installed. A reworking is in order methinks.
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#151727 - 31/03/2003 11:28 Re: Another broken nipple! [Re: pgrzelak]
BartDG
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Registered: 20/05/2001
Posts: 2616
Loc: Bruges, Belgium
Actually, the other versions of the knob board with 4LEDs is even closer to the nipple than that!

I know! My kit was also the one with 4 Led's (thanks to a very kind person. You know who you are! BTW, I'm still waiting for news from Brian!), but I couldn't find a pic of that kit installed.

I can't take a pic of my own empeg since I don't have a digital camera here.
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#151728 - 31/03/2003 11:28 Re: Another broken nipple! [Re: andym]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Actually, it all seems to depend on the distance of the fall and the angle of impact. My player that I drive with and bring to the office has been through numerous adventures (to which Stu can attest, having repaired the IDE header on that player twice!). The LED board doesn't seem to have a problem with the nipple. It is really the angle and amount of force in the impact. Most notably the angle.
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#151729 - 31/03/2003 11:38 Re: Another broken nipple! [Re: pgrzelak]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
I think you might also be able to increase the distance between the nipple and the board by doing this procedure.
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#151730 - 31/03/2003 11:45 Re: Another broken nipple! [Re: tfabris]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Yes. It does help. When Mark installed the buttonhack, the display's position was adjusted both away from the board and downward. It has helped with the display position and given a bit of space around the nipple. I did not do it myself, though - Mark had already done it during the install.
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#151731 - 31/03/2003 12:43 Re: Another broken nipple! [Re: BartDG]
StigOE
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Registered: 27/10/2002
Posts: 568
When I made my board, I made it with a 0.8mm PCB and also cut off the corner by the nipple to reduce the risk of the board hitting the nipple. Attached is a picture of it installed, although it is a bit difficult to see it since I have applied the "Black marker mod".

Stig


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150111-Knob-board.jpg (88 downloads)


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#151732 - 31/03/2003 14:31 Re: Another broken nipple! [Re: pgrzelak]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14496
Loc: Canada
When I do the button/knob kit installs, I also MOVE the display tube down a few extra millimeters, to give it more margin of clearance. It also makes it easier to read the top of the display in most car dashes, when viewing from above.

Cheers

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#151733 - 01/04/2003 08:33 Re: Another broken nipple! [Re: jbauer]
jbauer
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Registered: 08/05/2000
Posts: 1429
Loc: San Francisco, CA
Hi All,

I found a small supply of the displays - want to make absolute sure that it is the correct part before I order. The one I can get is the Noritake MN12832E, which I found in another post. Can someone here confirm that this is the absolute correct part number? I already sent a note to Rob, but not sure when he'll get a chance to confirm.

BTW, I'm planning to order 3 so that I can help 2 other people here that need em. I'll sell at my cost (59.10 plus shipping)...

- Thanx!
- Jon

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#151734 - 01/04/2003 08:52 Re: Another broken nipple! [Re: jbauer]
jbauer
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Registered: 08/05/2000
Posts: 1429
Loc: San Francisco, CA
Ok, found a thread where Hugo confirms that this is indeed the part number. I ordered 3 from Noritake for 59.10 each plus shipping. Anyone else need one?

- Jon

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#151735 - 01/04/2003 08:55 Re: Another broken nipple! [Re: jbauer]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
You have a PM. I wouldn't mind picking up spares for the future, just in case.
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#151736 - 01/04/2003 08:57 Re: Another broken nipple! [Re: pgrzelak]
jbauer
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Registered: 08/05/2000
Posts: 1429
Loc: San Francisco, CA
Anyone else want any? After 9, there's a volume discount...

- Jon

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#151737 - 01/04/2003 09:01 Re: Another broken nipple! [Re: jbauer]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Greetings!

I am still surprised you found these. Last I heard, they were discontinued, and only available in quantities of 100 or more. These must be leftovers that someone had in an attic somewhere.
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#151738 - 01/04/2003 09:05 Re: Another broken nipple! [Re: jbauer]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14496
Loc: Canada
I'll take one

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#151739 - 01/04/2003 09:20 Re: Another broken nipple! [Re: jbauer]
tman
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Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
I'd be interested in one

- Trevor

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#151740 - 01/04/2003 09:23 Re: Another broken nipple! [Re: pgrzelak]
JeepBastard
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Registered: 08/09/1999
Posts: 364
Loc: Brooklyn
That's not a bad price at all for a backup display, but man, you have to be careful where you store your backup so that your backup doesnt get broken!
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#151741 - 01/04/2003 09:28 Re: Another broken nipple! [Re: JeepBastard]
tman
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Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
But you could get a backup for your backup which is the backup for the empeg...

- Trevor

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#151742 - 01/04/2003 09:30 Re: Another broken nipple! [Re: tman]
jbauer
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Registered: 08/05/2000
Posts: 1429
Loc: San Francisco, CA
Ok, I've ordered 7 of these.

1 for me, 3 for pgrzelak, 1 for mlord, 1 for tman, and one extra (for JeepBastard maybe)?

Store is now closed.

I'll give you guys a total after I get them and am ready to ship em out.

- Thanx
- Jon

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#151743 - 01/04/2003 09:32 Re: Another broken nipple! [Re: jbauer]
jbauer
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Registered: 08/05/2000
Posts: 1429
Loc: San Francisco, CA
Now I've gotta figure out the best way to get the new display soldered on here in the SF area...

Ideas?

- Jon

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#151744 - 01/04/2003 10:45 Re: Another broken nipple! [Re: jbauer]
jarob10
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Registered: 07/01/2002
Posts: 274
Loc: Stockport, UK
I'll have 1

Didnt read the later posts - forget it.


Edited by jarob10 (01/04/2003 10:46)
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#151745 - 02/04/2003 05:20 Re: Another broken nipple! [Re: jarob10]
JeepBastard
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Registered: 08/09/1999
Posts: 364
Loc: Brooklyn
Let us know the details. cuz its important to have a backup screen, (even tho i padded my nipple and it has helped i think) shockwaves can travel thru and item, then reverberate back when it hits a rigid surface that doesn't transmit those waves, causing it to break on the way back.

I hope that doesn;t sound like "The Core" movie science.
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#151746 - 02/04/2003 13:32 Re: Another broken nipple! [Re: jbauer]
AndrewT
old hand

Registered: 16/02/2002
Posts: 867
Loc: Oxford, UK
Take it to a video & tv repair shop, they should be able to fit it easily.

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#151747 - 18/04/2003 17:27 Re: Another broken nipple! [Re: jbauer]
RobotCaleb
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Registered: 15/01/2002
Posts: 1866
Loc: Austin
im prolly too late but that happens. id like one. if possible. please.

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#151748 - 21/04/2003 12:26 Re: Another broken nipple! [Re: jbauer]
nikko
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Registered: 15/01/2002
Posts: 122
I have nothing substantive to add. But I'd like to mention that this is my favorite subject line to date.

Cheers.

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#151749 - 21/04/2003 12:42 Re: Another broken nipple! [Re: jbauer]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14496
Loc: Canada
Got it today, thanks!

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#151750 - 21/04/2003 12:48 Re: Another broken nipple! [Re: mlord]
jbauer
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Registered: 08/05/2000
Posts: 1429
Loc: San Francisco, CA
Great! So everyone got their displays and all seem A-OK? No broken displays, no broken leads, etc?

- Jon

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#151751 - 21/04/2003 14:02 Re: Another broken nipple! [Re: jbauer]
maczrool
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Registered: 13/01/2002
Posts: 1649
Loc: Louisiana, USA
AFAIK mine is okay, I haven't been able to test it though.

Stu
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#151752 - 22/04/2003 09:39 Re: Another broken nipple! [Re: nikko]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12341
Loc: Sterling, VA
I'd like to mention that this is my favorite subject line to date
Not to mention that it has been an oddly dirty thread

the shaft of the knob sits so close to the nipple
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#151753 - 22/04/2003 09:57 Re: Another broken nipple! [Re: Dignan]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
There's always this...
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#151754 - 28/04/2003 02:36 Re: Another broken nipple! [Re: jbauer]
jane
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Registered: 10/10/2000
Posts: 350
Loc: Copenhagen SW, Denmark
I've got a broken nipple... Any suggestions?

Marius (Escort Cab + 2CV)

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