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#153213 - 06/04/2003 05:00 Re: Is it possible to upgrade without serial? [Re: adavidw]
phi144
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I'm not familiar with Linux. Is this something MS slaves can figure out?
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#153214 - 06/04/2003 07:37 Re: Is it possible to upgrade without serial? [Re: mlord]
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Hi.

To you think it would be feasible to integrate a similar feature into Jemplode?
I should probably ask mschrag about this, but wanted to ask you for your opinion first.

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PS: One other thing, completely unrelated: Do you think it would be possible to integrate a function into the Linux IDE driver to re-scan an IDE bus? My notebook (Dell Latitude C840) allows plug'n'pray operation of its second (sic!) CD-drive (first is permanently installed), which works like a charm under Windows XP, but doesn't work under Linux. What ' ya think?
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#153215 - 06/04/2003 07:42 Re: Is it possible to upgrade without serial? [Re: phi144]
smu
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Well, Knoppix is quite easy to use, and I think just about any intelligent PC user (even without any Linux experience) should be able to use that. However, I am not too sure wether Mark's program is as easy to use as Knoppix. It shouldn't be too hard though.

Just download the english version of Knoppix (link posted earlier) and try it.

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#153216 - 06/04/2003 08:32 Re: Is it possible to upgrade without serial? [Re: smu]
mlord
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Hi,

Given that my current upgrader compiles to about 9KB of code, it is certainly small enough to go into JEmplode. Note that JEmplode already has some built-in FTP client stacks, so the ncftpput external program would not be needed there.

As for hotplugging a CD-ROM: if it's the only device on it's particular IDE channel (say, "hdc", with no "hdd" device), then what you want is already in the kernel. It's just a matter of having userland support for it. You might be able to do it yourself with just "hdparm -U" followed by "hdparm -R", but I'll leave it to you to figure out the parameters.

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#153217 - 06/04/2003 08:36 Re: Is it possible to upgrade without serial? [Re: smu]
mlord
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>I am not too sure wether Mark's program is as easy to use

With KNOPPIX running: ALT-F2 (pops up a command prompt),
and then type in:

upgrader empeg_ip_addr car2-developer-v2.00.upgrade

Of course, one first has to grab the upgrader and .upgrade files, and copy them into KNOPPIX. This would involve some point and click with the mouse, and so may be too complex for most of us..


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#153218 - 06/04/2003 10:39 Re: Is it possible to upgrade without serial? [Re: mlord]
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Hey now, just asking.
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#153219 - 07/04/2003 04:01 Re: Is it possible to upgrade without serial? [Re: jasonc]
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"It was right about then that a little ditty started going through my head. It went a little something like this: AAAAAAAGGGH! GET 'EM OFF ME, GET 'EM OFF ME, GAAAAAAAA!"


you've got weasels on your face

ahhh zelda
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#153220 - 08/04/2003 18:12 Re: Is it possible to upgrade without serial? [Re: tfabris]
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I thought of the same exact song when reading the scenario. I love that song. But I love sourkrout.
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#153221 - 09/04/2003 22:59 Re: Is it possible to upgrade without serial? [Re: 94cobra]
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I thought of the same exact song when reading the scenario


Completely by design. The odd thing is that I'm really not into Zappa that much. He's one of those that I can tell has some sort of greatness, but I'm not quite taken in by the music, and I know it's just because I'm not ready for it. I'm going through life with the assumption that I'll be a huge Zappa fan someday. It's just that I haven't reached the right level of maturity yet. No more than another five years, though. It's a crying shame I couldn't have got to that point while he was still alive.

So, even though I'm not really into Zappa, I can't even hear the word "weasels" without at least picturing the album cover.

[Edit: link for those who have no idea what we're talking about.]


Edited by adavidw (09/04/2003 23:04)
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#153222 - 10/04/2003 11:25 Re: Is it possible to upgrade without serial? [Re: adavidw]
tfabris
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I was actually referring to Weird Al's "Albuquerque", which, I'm ashamed to admit, I didn't know was a reference to Zappa until now.
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#153223 - 10/04/2003 13:43 Re: Is it possible to upgrade without serial? [Re: tfabris]
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Okay, now I'm confused. I know naught of the "Albuquerque". I just thought you were getting the Zappa reference. Maybe the two songs have no connection at all...

I'll do a little digging so I can find the Weird Al song. Now I want to check it out.
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#153224 - 10/04/2003 13:59 Re: Is it possible to upgrade without serial? [Re: adavidw]
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Reminds me of a time when a co-worker was explaining the old line "We don't need no steeking badges" to someone else. The problem was, he was explaining it as a reference to Blazing Saddles, having never seen Treasure of the Sierra Madre, not realizing that Blazing Saddles was referencing the Bogart film.
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#153225 - 10/04/2003 14:08 Re: Is it possible to upgrade without serial? [Re: tfabris]
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There’s nothing worse than getting caught talking like you're "in the know" and then revealing your ignorance. I should know, it happens to me all the time. You think I'd learn to start keeping my trap shut.

As an aside, I wonder how many people think that the "badges" reference originated with Blazing Saddles?
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#153226 - 10/04/2003 14:10 Re: Is it possible to upgrade without serial? [Re: JeffS]
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As an aside, I wonder how many people think that the "badges" reference originated with Blazing Saddles?
Guilty as charged. Never knowingly watched a Bogart film of any kind... Knew the Blazing Saddles line was a play on some prior movie, but couldn't have told you which one.
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#153227 - 10/04/2003 14:12 Re: Is it possible to upgrade without serial? [Re: JeffS]
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What I found most interesting was that the co-worker thought that scene in Blazing Saddles was funny, even when he didn't get the reference.
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#153228 - 10/04/2003 14:13 Re: Is it possible to upgrade without serial? [Re: tonyc]
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Guilty as charged. Never knowingly watched a Bogart film of any kind...



Oh man, your killing me... I watched The Big Sleep last night on AMC, complete with extra footage. It was great, as most anything with him and his wife.
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#153229 - 10/04/2003 14:13 Re: Is it possible to upgrade without serial? [Re: tfabris]
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Blazing Saddles is rife with racist humor anyway, so maybe it was just the outrageous Mexican accents.
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#153230 - 10/04/2003 14:14 Re: Is it possible to upgrade without serial? [Re: revlmwest]
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Not to mention based on a Raymond Chandler novel, having a screenplay written by William Faulkner, and directed by Howard Hawks. Great stuff.

You gotta wonder why they made that awful ``remake'' with Robert Mitchum in the late 70s. The Big Lebowski was pretty darn good, though.
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#153231 - 10/04/2003 14:16 Re: Is it possible to upgrade without serial? [Re: tonyc]
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For reference, the scene in Treasure of the Sierra Madre is when Bogart is looking for gold in the mountains, and some Mexican banditos come to rob him. They claim they are federales (cops), but he says "if you're federales, where are your badges?". The reply line is (usually misquoted as) "we don't need no steeeking badges". If I recall correctly, the line is more complicated than that and doesn't actually contain those words in that order, but it's kind of stuck that way. I suppose I could look up the real line at IMDB...
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#153232 - 10/04/2003 14:18 Re: Is it possible to upgrade without serial? [Re: wfaulk]
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If remember correctly the first movie they were in together was also by Faulkner and directed by Hawks. Great stuff. I wonder how many people get fed up with the ambiguous plot lines. Personally, that may be what I like best about them.
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#153233 - 10/04/2003 14:23 Re: Is it possible to upgrade without serial? [Re: revlmwest]
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Sure enough: To Have and Have Not. I've honestly not seen this one, and I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around Faulkner adapting Hemingway.
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#153234 - 10/04/2003 14:25 Re: Is it possible to upgrade without serial? [Re: tfabris]
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I suppose I could look up the real line at IMDB...
Couldn't resist...

Blazing Saddles (1974)
Mexican Bandit: Badges? We don't need no stinking badges!

Treasure of the Sierra Madre, The (1948)
Gold Hat: Badges? We ain't got no badges. We don't need no badges. I don't have to show you any stinking badges.

I'm think the "Play it again, Sam" line falls under the same category: A slight misquote that's stuck over the years. Odd that they're both for Bogart films...
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#153235 - 10/04/2003 14:25 Re: Is it possible to upgrade without serial? [Re: tfabris]
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Thanks Tony, I've never seen the movie (though I have seen a few other of Bogart's) and didn't know that it was from that movie (yes, I'm guilty too). I have never found the line particularly funny, but I always smile knowingly whenever anyone says it (so as to avoid the awkward moment of silence that immediately follows a joke if you don’t at least smile). I wonder how many people find the line funny for no other reason that others find it funny?
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#153236 - 10/04/2003 14:26 Re: Is it possible to upgrade without serial? [Re: wfaulk]
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My personal favorite... although it lacks Bacall, is the Maltese Falcon. Again with hard to follow plot lines.
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#153237 - 10/04/2003 14:26 Re: Is it possible to upgrade without serial? [Re: JeffS]
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For the record, it's not funny in TotSM.
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#153238 - 10/04/2003 14:28 Re: Is it possible to upgrade without serial? [Re: revlmwest]
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We should put together a film noir/empeg meet.

I need to go back and watch these movies again. I haven't seen The Maltese Falcon in many years.
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#153239 - 10/04/2003 14:30 Re: Is it possible to upgrade without serial? [Re: wfaulk]
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For the record, it's not funny in TotSM.
Right... It's a rather tense moment in the film, in fact. It's only funny as a reference.

Of course, I spent years watching Mystery Science Theater 3000, which is nothing but reference humor. Most of their jokes go over your head, but they fire so many at you that some of them are bound to stick. And out of the ones that do, the most obscure ones are the funniest, because it makes you feel like they're inside your head.
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#153240 - 10/04/2003 14:31 Re: Is it possible to upgrade without serial? [Re: wfaulk]
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Yeah, I kind of guessed that. However, I can see how it would be funny in Blazing Saddles, if it was a reference to another movie. If not, it's just a line that could be funny because of accents or inflections of the voice. While certainly there are quotable lines like this (Monty Python has several, the “I’m not dead” line being a prime example, even though it’s usually misquoted), I'd never found this one particularly amusing.
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#153241 - 10/04/2003 15:07 Re: Is it possible to upgrade without serial? [Re: JeffS]
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You mean they didn't copy it from UHF?

"Badgers? Badgers? We don't need no stinking badgers!"


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#153242 - 10/04/2003 20:46 Re: Is it possible to upgrade without serial? [Re: Daria]
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I prefer the line from Casablanca

How extravagant you are throwing women away like that, someday they may be scarce.

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