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#1532 - 23/03/2000 01:43 Re: About that visuals movie... [Re: PaulWay]
Lord Bleys
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Registered: 30/12/1999
Posts: 143
There's a solid definition, including things that affect the experienced data rate at: http://whatis.com/dsl.htm

I've emailed this, per your request but figured others might be interested, too.

In my case I passed loop qualification for 1.2Mbit/s downspeed and 384Kbit/s upspeed (ADSL). That doesn't mean I see those rates. In reality I get reliable, tested speeds of about 784Kbit/s bi-directionlly for a measly US$60.00/mo. including a /28 netmask of static IPs.

I'm not complaining, but affordable VDSL would be nice -- can you say 52Mbit/s bidirectional??? I thought you could! =]

-- Bleys

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#1533 - 23/03/2000 19:13 Re: About that visuals movie... [Re: Jens]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12318
Loc: Sterling, VA
Yeah, 460 aignt that great anyway. I just got the best computer speakers you can buy (Klipsch ProMedias) and they have nearly that much RMS wattage at 400 (I strongly reccommend them if you're good at waiting. they're only $250 - cheap for PC speakers).

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#1534 - 23/03/2000 23:10 Re: About that visuals movie... [Re: CHiP]
mcomb
pooh-bah

Registered: 31/08/1999
Posts: 1649
Loc: San Carlos, CA
So CHiP,

What happened to the updated movie? :-)

Please?

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#1535 - 24/03/2000 08:48 Re: About that visuals movie... [Re: mcomb]
CHiP
enthusiast

Registered: 08/06/1999
Posts: 345
Loc: New Jersey, USA
I'm working on it! .... I'm a busy man, but i hope to get some help from a friend this weekend. I didn't forget! ... when it's done, you'll all konw.

:)



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#1536 - 24/03/2000 10:09 Re: About that visuals movie... [Re: CHiP]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
Make sure it's got the new visuals from Beta 10... :-)

Tony Fabris
Empeg #144
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#1537 - 26/03/2000 13:42 Re: About that visuals movie... NEW MOVIE [Re: mcomb]
CHiP
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Registered: 08/06/1999
Posts: 345
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Oh boy, oh boy, a willing volunteer. Personally I would love a video that showed a few seconds of each visual (would be good for that nameing thing too) and included sound so that we can really see the interaction. Maybe show a little of the menu interaction too so that we can see how that works. Of course this will probably just make me more jealous.

ok, you asked for it, and you got it!

The new and improved empeg video can be found at:
http://steve.nac.net/empeg

It's about 9 min long (a large file size, sorry modem people, just let it go overnight), but it's got a few seconds of each visual, and some menu navagation/searching. Let me know if there are any problems with viewing it.

Also, Mike, can you put up a mirror site for me? Just email me at [email protected] for info.

Should I start a new thread on the "General" forum so everyone can see it?


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#1538 - 26/03/2000 17:05 Re: About that visuals movie... NEW MOVIE [Re: CHiP]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
Should I start a new thread on the "General" forum so everyone can see it?

Yes, and announce it on the mailing list as well. Thanks for doing this. I'm looking forward to downloading it when I get back on my fat pipe Monday.

Tony Fabris
Empeg #144
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#1539 - 26/03/2000 18:56 Re: About that visuals movie... NEW MOVIE [Re: CHiP]
corby
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Registered: 05/10/1999
Posts: 89
Terrific job, Chip! That was wonderful! Two questions:

1) What did you use to shoot that? The video and the audio quality were great!
2) What is that crap on your steering wheel?

Corby
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#1540 - 26/03/2000 22:56 Re: About that visuals movie... NEW MOVIE [Re: CHiP]
Terminator
old hand

Registered: 12/01/2000
Posts: 1079
Loc: Dallas, TX
I really appreciate the video you made! I wasnt really sure how it would all work until now.

Term


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#1541 - 26/03/2000 23:14 Re: About that visuals movie... NEW MOVIE [Re: corby]
Lord Bleys
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Registered: 30/12/1999
Posts: 143
Looks to me like CHiP chose an Empeg over a decent-looking steering wheel. I'd do the same; with an Empeg no-one would notice the wheel, even if you were hand-cuffed to it. *smirk*

Actually I suspect CHiP lives somewhere with cold winters. If it's cold enough your hands can freeze (momentarily) to a leather wheel (due to the water content of your skin hands). This is not pleasant...

-- Bleys

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#1542 - 27/03/2000 21:46 Re: About that visuals movie... NEW MOVIE [Re: corby]
CHiP
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Registered: 08/06/1999
Posts: 345
Loc: New Jersey, USA
>>1) What did you use to shoot that? The video and the audio quality were great!

Thank you, well, I used a Sony TRV-99 Hi8 Camera and my partner, Scott, has a Canon GL1 DV cam. I used a DC-30 and Premiere 5.1 to edit the video. The audio was bad in my opion becuase my car stereo was too loud! :) Next time i do a video i'll take a direct output from the empeg and record that out of the car.

>>2) What is that crap on your steering wheel?
Oh, i knew someone would ask that! That just a furry cover that i use in the winnter time so that i dont' have to wear gloves. The steering wheel is like holding a block of ice when it's parked outside!!! ( I bring the empeg inside when it's below freezing, call me crazy, but i'm sure the hot and cold temp has some long term effects on the parts inside.)


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#1543 - 28/03/2000 11:57 Re: About that visuals movie... NEW MOVIE [Re: CHiP]
eternalsun
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 09/09/1999
Posts: 1721
Loc: San Jose, CA
Driving gloves ChiP. Growing a lawn on your steering wheel doesn't cut it.

;)

Calvin


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#1544 - 28/03/2000 17:04 Re: About that visuals movie... NEW MOVIE [Re: CHiP]
Jens
stranger

Registered: 13/03/2000
Posts: 38
Loc: Manhattan, New York, USA
Awesome movie!

I can't wait to get the empeg now. I love the analog meters. And for all of you who have to deal with modems, here's a little something to make you pray that Santa brings you DSL this Christmas. I was streaming the video and took a snapshot of the 'statistics' dialog:

http://www.ratsey.com/empeg/statistics.gif

... enjoy!

J.
(No empeg, a Mustang Cobra coming in June, and a TVR 400SE 4,000 miles away! DOH!)


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#1545 - 28/03/2000 18:32 Re: About that visuals movie... NEW MOVIE [Re: Jens]
dionysus
veteran

Registered: 16/06/1999
Posts: 1222
Loc: San Francisco, CA
took a snapshot of the 'statistics' dialog:

DON'T talk to me:)
:(-mark

...proud to have one of the first Mark I units
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#1546 - 31/03/2000 00:43 Re: About that visuals movie... NEW MOVIE [Re: Jens]
tanstaafl.
carpal tunnel

Registered: 08/07/1999
Posts: 5539
Loc: Ajijic, Mexico
Oh, boy...

And here I thought I was pretty hot stuff because my computer at work was downloading at an average rate of 42 Kbps...

sigh....

tanstaafl.

"There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch"
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#1547 - 31/03/2000 11:58 Re: About that visuals movie... NEW MOVIE [Re: tanstaafl.]
drakino
carpal tunnel

Registered: 08/06/1999
Posts: 7868
Keep in mind that Real Player reports speeds in kbits, not kbytes. So he was getting a 32k/s stream. I love the average of 80k/s my wireless connection has been giving me

I want the day to come that most of the people on the internet are connected faster then modem speeds. The explosion of private streaming media content will simply be amazing.


My empeg site is:http://24.236.3.131/empeg/


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#1548 - 01/04/2000 00:43 Re: About that visuals movie... NEW MOVIE [Re: CHiP]
mcomb
pooh-bah

Registered: 31/08/1999
Posts: 1649
Loc: San Carlos, CA
Hey CHiP,

Sorry I haven't gotten back to you on that mirror. Unfortunately, I have been doing too much real work and DNS is currently royaly tweaked on the box that would be my webserver. Can you live without a mirrored copy (at least for a while)?

BTW, great job with the video. It really help visualize how everything works. I had no idea the menu system functioned at all like that. For some reason I was always picturing a more traditional drop down menu system and was wondering how that could be done efficiently on a small screen.

-Mike

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#1549 - 09/04/2000 12:02 Re: Snakes? [Re: mac]
Mark Miller
journeyman

Registered: 21/09/1999
Posts: 69
Loc: Southeastern Pennsylvania

C'mon, Mike... they look/move nothing like snakes. They move more like the first video game "pong" ... even their tails emulate the persistance of vision encountered in early long phosphor CRTs.

Cheers,
=Mark (possibily the only herpetologist here)


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