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#165214 - 13/06/2003 22:45 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: Laura]
Dignan
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I'm not sure I understand how you're attempting to create the CD layouts. I assume you're using the wizard, or choosing "Audio CD" from the menu.

Then it sounds like you're dragging a folder of MP3's onto the layout pane. I don't think you can drop folders of files that way. You should just open the folder and drag over the files you want. If that isn't working for data CDs, that's a different problem.

The other problem may be that Nero just doesn't like burning MP3s. A friend of mine was shocked to learn that I convert all my MP3s to WAV before I burn them. I just don't want anything to screw up the process. Unfortunately, Winamp's output plugin for this purpose seems to change the files slightly, raising the high end. If anyone knows about this or how to fix it, let me know.

I'm trying to burn a CD using the same process I think you're using, so I'll see how it works. If it doesn't, I've got more CDs. If it does, I'll have a nice copy of Pearl Jam's Vs to give someone
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#165215 - 13/06/2003 22:51 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: Laura]
Dignan
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I am having no problems burning MP3s directly.

How fast is the burner? If it is really fast, make sure the media you are using is rated to be burned at those speeds, and see what speeds Nero is giving you. One cool thing Nero does, though, is that it detects this automatically when the burn dialog comes up. Have you been moving the speed up to max each time if this is the case?

Other than that, I can't think of anything else... sorry
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#165216 - 14/06/2003 02:51 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: Laura]
BartDG
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I get the errors that either the file is inaccessible or different

Nero requires a plugin to be able to work with mp3 files. This plugin has to be purchased seperately. Without this, you'll first have to convert your mp3 files to wav manually before writing them.

On another note : maybe you can use a CDRW disc for your cd wrinting experiments ? Then you won't end up with a stack of unusuable coasters if the problem does end up to be the drive itself (I doubt that though, I've never known a Plextor to go bad and I've sold dozens of them. But I suppose it can happen)
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#165217 - 14/06/2003 04:45 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: Dignan]
Laura
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The burner I have is a 20X. I have tried burning at 20X, 16X and even 8X and get the same results. What I am doing is dragging over the folders of MP3s and choosing music CD. The media I am using is rated at 32X and I also used some that was rated at 16X.

I read about the plugin but it sounded like it was used more for encoding wave files but these are already MP3 files. It also mentioned that it was included in the demo version.

Maybe I will try another program.
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#165218 - 14/06/2003 05:11 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: BartDG]
Laura
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I gave it another try just adding the songs and not the folders. It changed the MP3 files to CDA files and they won't play but they did burn.
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#165219 - 14/06/2003 09:45 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: Laura]
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I had some trouble myself when I first got Nero. My problem when trying to create an audio CD from MP3s, in those days, was that my computer didn't have the power to decode the MP3s and burn at the same time. Anyway...

I'm confused. You're not being very clear on the steps you're using. Are you attempting to make an MP3 CD, or a normal audio CD for use in normal CD players?

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#165220 - 14/06/2003 13:39 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: DeadFire]
Laura
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I'm try to make a MP3 CD. I tried CDRWIN that Paul suggested and no luck there either. Maybe the drive is bad or my computer isn't good enough. It's very frustrating.
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#165221 - 14/06/2003 13:44 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: Laura]
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I have seen some troubles with MP3 CDs. If you are making this for a specific player (like a CD MP3 player in your car), I would suggest you review the specific settings recommended in that unit's manual, and not use Nero Express. Make sure you choose to create a normal data CD (ISO9660, I believe), and check all of the settings to make sure they are compatible with your player's preferences. Also make sure that your filenames and ID3 tags are useable on that player.

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#165222 - 14/06/2003 13:44 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: Laura]
tfabris
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I'm try to make a MP3 CD.
Please be clear on this...

Do you want to:

- Make an audio CD that can play on an audio CD player? (i.e., turn some MP3s into an audio CD)

- Make a data CD that contains a bunch of MP3 files, that can play on a CD-MP3 player?
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#165223 - 14/06/2003 14:28 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: tfabris]
pgrzelak
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Greetings!

It was just a data CD that happened to contain MP3 data files, not destined to be played or recognized by anything other than a computer.
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#165224 - 14/06/2003 15:21 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: pgrzelak]
Laura
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Yes, what Paul says. Maybe that is the problem? I am making music CDs and I should be trying to make data CDs? I'm feeling like a complete idiot about this.
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#165225 - 14/06/2003 15:27 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: Laura]
tfabris
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I am making music CDs and I should be trying to make data CDs?
That might be the problem. And don't feel like an idiot, it's not something they make very clear.

I mean, someone who doesn't already know about the technology, if they want to make a CD full of MP3s, might assume "MP3s are music, so I pick music."

Even some of the replies by the people in this thread who know the difference, made the assumption that if you wanted to burn a CD of your MP3s, that you really did mean an audio CD.

Anyway, to give you the background, CDs are made up of either audio tracks (like the music CDs you buy in the music store) or data tracks (like the software CDs you buy at the software store).

Whick kind you burn depends on what you want to do with the CD. If you want to store computer files like MP3s, like Paul said, then you make a data CD and drop the files onto it. If you want to play it in a stereo that can't play MP3 data CDs, then you need to make an audio CD.

Look at the bright side. All those things you think are coasters are probably playable on your audio CD player.
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#165226 - 14/06/2003 15:58 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: tfabris]
Laura
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All those things you think are coasters are probably playable on your audio CD player


What are those? I don't have one
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#165227 - 14/06/2003 17:33 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: Laura]
Dignan
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I appologize! I was giving instructions on creating CD audio discs. I'm sorry I didn't understand your intentions
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#165228 - 14/06/2003 20:57 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: tfabris]
Laura
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I tried burning them as a data CD and when I go to open the folders there is nothing there. I get a folder was moved or removed error. I think I am giving up.
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#165229 - 18/06/2003 12:11 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: Laura]
drakino
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You may want to still consider problems with the drive. Since it is a Plextor, they do have firmware updates that may fix the problem.

Firmware here

You might want to try a different brand of CDRs as well, sometimes some don't work well with certain CD burners.

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#165230 - 18/06/2003 13:37 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: drakino]
Laura
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I'll try the firmware update. Thanks Tom. I haven't tried any more since the last batch of coasters but I have tried a few different brands of blanks.
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#165231 - 18/06/2003 16:44 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: drakino]
Laura
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After spending an hour on the phone with Plextor and making a few more coasters with their help, I am supposed to run this test on the drive and report the findings back to them. So it looks like this drive is screwed up and it hasn't been operator error after all
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#165232 - 18/06/2003 16:46 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: Laura]
pgrzelak
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Greetings!

I bet that makes you feel better. Although it still sucks because you said that it was an old drive, and likely out of warranty.
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#165233 - 18/06/2003 17:48 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: pgrzelak]
Laura
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Maybe 6 or 7 months old. I hope that it is still under warranty.
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#165234 - 19/06/2003 07:15 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: Laura]
JaBZ
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Should be, your are within 12months, which is the norm period for computer parts....

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#165235 - 29/06/2003 17:36 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: JaBZ]
Laura
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Well an update to this thread for anyone interested. I finally got around to testing the drive this morning and it passed the hardware test which surprised me but after that I kept getting a secondary IDE controller problem in Windows and it wouldn't see the drive. After hours of troubleshooting the problem it turned out to be a bad IDE cable. I replaced the cable and decided to try burning some MP3s again, and low and behold. It burned them. So now I like my Plextor drive
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#165236 - 29/06/2003 18:16 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: Laura]
tfabris
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After hours of troubleshooting the problem it turned out to be a bad IDE cable.
Yeah, and none of us have gotten conditioned to automatically suspect a bad IDE cable at the slightest sign of trouble. I mean, it's the last place any of us would think to look.

Glad you got it working!
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#165237 - 29/06/2003 18:59 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: Laura]
Dignan
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Argh! I HATE that!! That stalled the setup of my new machine for a day or two. That's SO annoying. But the feeling you get when it just starts working perfectly is wonderful.

So what program are you using to burn now that it makes less difference? Do you still like Nero?

Does anyone know of a company that makes reliable cables? I mean, cables aren't something we usually identify brands by, yet I know that they've given me half the trouble in my machine.
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#165238 - 29/06/2003 19:31 Re: I hate my plextor drive [Re: Dignan]
Laura
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Tomorrow is my last day for the demo version so I guess I will go ahead and pay for the full version of Nero now that I can use it. I have to go out tomorrow and look for a longer IDE cable than the one spare I have. It isn't long enough to attach two drives to it in a full tower. Maybe I'll get two and replace the other IDE cable just in case it is going bad also, it's just as old.
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