#176270 - 25/08/2003 15:34
Re: CPU temp?
[Re: BartDG]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
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What made you change your mind ? The movies for Half Life 2, which is due out pretty soon IIRC. (Anyone hear any word?)
I am pretty sure that Doom 3 WILL run on that card of yours! Hearing that it was the official "Doom3" card at QuakeCon helped me decide to do it now instead of waiting. 
I'm glad I did the upgrade now instead of waiting, because of all the little technical details I needed to get ironed out. Now, when HL2 comes out, it will be a simple case of install and play, instead of frantically trying to get my upgrades working.
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#176271 - 25/08/2003 15:41
Re: CPU temp?
[Re: tfabris]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/05/2001
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The movies for Half Life 2, which is due out pretty soon IIRC. (Anyone hear any word?)
Did you see that HL2 600+Mb Demo Trailer movie ? It's INSANE!
Last I heard it's still on schedule, to be released at the very end of september.
Hearing that it was the official "Doom3" card at QuakeCon helped me decide to do it now instead of waiting.
Excellent point.
On a side note, how much noise does the cooler on that card make ? The first FX card were extremely noisy ; did they find a way to (more or less) fix that ?
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#176272 - 25/08/2003 15:47
Re: CPU temp?
[Re: BartDG]
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carpal tunnel
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Did you see that HL2 600+Mb Demo Trailer movie ? It's INSANE! The biggest one I've seen was the one that was "Cammed" at E3. Kinda fuzzy, with a Gamespy logo watermarked in the corner. If it's a high-rez, clean, non-cammed version of the trailer I'd like to find it. Got a download link?
Although the cammed version was fun... I really liked hearing the commentary by the presenter and the audience. There are some real gems in there...
"Will this run on my 486?"
"Didn't think the demo would be complete without a giant pachinko machine."
"Eff... You..."
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#176273 - 25/08/2003 15:49
Re: CPU temp?
[Re: BartDG]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
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Ah you edited the post to include the link. Thank you!
Last I heard it's still on schedule, to be released at the very end of september. <burns>Eeeexcellent...</burns>
On a side note, how much noise does the cooler on that card make ? The first FX card were extremely noisy ; did they find a way to (more or less) fix that ? It's reasonable. I don't know if it's a fixed version or if it's a noisy one, but I get more sound out of the CPU cooler and case fans than out of that card.
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#176274 - 25/08/2003 15:51
Re: CPU temp?
[Re: tfabris]
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carpal tunnel
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Yeah, that was the one I meant ! A really big mouth-watering experience if I ever saw one !
I don't play that many games anymore because I can't find the time (I still have to finish Soldier Of Fortune 2), but for HL2 I'll MAKE time!
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#176275 - 25/08/2003 15:55
Re: CPU temp?
[Re: tfabris]
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carpal tunnel
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I don't know if it's a fixed version or if it's a noisy one, but I get more sound out of the CPU cooler and case fans than out of that card.
Then I'm sure it's a fixed version. The early versions were not very stable and they made a noise like vacuum cleaner. Very annoying. Glad to hear they were able to solve it. I'm sure it wasn't the only reason for the drop back in sales, but it must have had something to do with it. They got really bad publicity because of it.
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#176276 - 25/08/2003 17:44
Re: CPU temp?
[Re: BartDG]
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Registered: 12/08/2001
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Loc: Atlanta
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Steam was sending out the raw video (non-cammed) for various sections of the gameplay. Is this 500MB you posted a compilation of all the raw videos or just a really high res version of the cammed video?
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#176277 - 25/08/2003 17:48
Re: CPU temp?
[Re: Folsom]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
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Loc: Seattle, WA
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High rez version of the cammed video.
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#176278 - 25/08/2003 18:25
Re: CPU temp?
[Re: tfabris]
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Registered: 12/08/2001
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Loc: Atlanta
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FilePlanet has a video not shown on the Gamespy video. Cool tunnel video with some different flying bugs.
Link
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#176279 - 25/08/2003 20:02
Re: CPU temp?
[Re: tfabris]
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Hearing that it was the official "Doom3" card at QuakeCon helped me decide to do it now instead of waiting. Well, NVidia was the official sponsor of QuakeCon 2003, while ATI was for QuakeCon 2002. And NVidia was in 2001, etc... All it means is one company was willing to pay more then the other. The game is going to run fine on any high end card, since it would be suicide for a game company to only support one brand of video card these days.
Though, from the looks of it, the game will run fine at normal settings. We will all have to wait on much faster systems to get a chance to play Doom 3 at max settings and keep framerates around 60fps. This engine scales very well.
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#176280 - 25/08/2003 20:07
Re: CPU temp?
[Re: Folsom]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
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FilePlanet has a video not shown on the Gamespy video. Cool tunnel video with some different flying bugs. Yup, got that one. Nifty.
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#176281 - 25/08/2003 20:30
Re: CPU temp?
[Re: tfabris]
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addict
Registered: 13/07/2002
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Loc: Jesusland
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I scored a 5668.
Those games look pretty incredible by the way.
Edited by Jerz (25/08/2003 20:53)
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#176282 - 25/08/2003 21:34
Re: CPU temp?
[Re: tfabris]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 20/01/2002
Posts: 2085
Loc: New Orleans, LA
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Here is a bittorrent link page with several of the demos available. I can usually get around 360k/s using bt.
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#176284 - 25/08/2003 22:44
Re: CPU temp?
[Re: RobotCaleb]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 15/01/2002
Posts: 1866
Loc: Austin
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it doesnt say there
512 ddr, synced speed with my mobo (334mhz)
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#176285 - 26/08/2003 07:48
Re: CPU temp?
[Re: tfabris]
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journeyman
Registered: 29/07/2003
Posts: 66
Loc: Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA
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Eh cool beans.
I got the model just below that (BFG 5900/128MB--not the ultra) for $300 from outpost.com. I just couldn't justify the extra 200 bucks for the Ultra, maybe I'll overclock  .
I chose BFG because my Hercules GF2 GTS crapped out on me 2 months outside the 3 year warranty cutoff! Not happening again...
I'm unfortunately unable to use my new card yet as my puter blow'd up.
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#176286 - 26/08/2003 08:08
Re: CPU temp?
[Re: Jerz]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
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I scored a 5668. Not bad! What system specs?
Those games look pretty incredible by the way. Yeah, too bad they're not real games! Although if you look at the help file (installed in an HTML folder tree under the main program) they describe how the various scenes test the card. For example, explaining that the gal's hair in the Troll's Lair demo is not only individual polygons, but it's anisotropically lit, too.
Me, I'd be happy if I could just get a separate EXE of the Nature demo that I could move the camera around in myself.
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#176288 - 26/08/2003 08:16
Re: CPU temp?
[Re: cmtempeg]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
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I just couldn't justify the extra 200 bucks for the Ultra, I did, because I knew that these new games would really be pumping lots of textures to the card and I needed all the RAM I could get. Didn't want any hitching or slowdowns while the engine transferred textures from RAM to card during gameplay.
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#176289 - 26/08/2003 08:22
Re: CPU temp?
[Re: tfabris]
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Registered: 13/07/2002
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Loc: Jesusland
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Not bad! What system specs?
PIV 3.0GHZ with Hyperthreading, 1gig of ram (not sure which brand I wasn't happy getting the doa corsair so I opted for whatever was at Microcenter), ATI 9800pro, Gigabyt 8knxp-ultra mobo.
Yeah, too bad they're not real games!
Damn, no kidding... It was during trolls one during the cpu test is when I noticed a little hesitation. The part where they're fighting and the girl walks in; Pretty incredible.
Me, I'd be happy if I could just get a separate EXE of the Nature demo that I could move the camera around in myself.
Yes, there is a lot going on there with the trees and grass blowing in the wind and the running water. I was amazed.
Too bad I don't play the 3d games but it looks like I may have to start.
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#176290 - 26/08/2003 18:31
Re: CPU temp?
[Re: tfabris]
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member
Registered: 12/08/2001
Posts: 175
Loc: Atlanta
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I'm wondering if the physics engine in HL2 is going to dominate over the graphics. If everything affects everything else, I think the physics computations will add up quickly.
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#176291 - 26/08/2003 20:38
Re: CPU temp?
[Re: Folsom]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
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I'm sure that's something they're carefully play-tuning. And I'm sure their physics engine has safeguards in place to prevent runaway iterative calculations. They'll make sure it works right.
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#176292 - 26/08/2003 22:25
Re: CPU temp?
[Re: tfabris]
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carpal tunnel
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Most physics engines I have seen will intentionally start dropping the quality of their calculations to ensure the CPU time it needs dosen't subtract from everything else. UT2K3 actually has a low/medium/high setting that affects the non necessary ragdoll deaths.
Aparently id is going to be touting their physics engine in Doom 3. Based on their Quakecon presentation, this is part of the delay, as it was rewritten from scratch this year. They said something about it handling 100 boxes stacked on top of each other. They unfortunatly didn't show anything though to indicate how processor intensive that was.
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#176293 - 27/08/2003 05:52
Re: CPU temp?
[Re: drakino]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
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They said something about it handling 100 boxes stacked on top of each other
They unfortunatly didn't show anything though to indicate how processor intensive that was. Or maybe they were trying to say it requires 100 boxes stacked on top of each other to run Doom 3.
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#176294 - 11/09/2003 02:29
Re: CPU temp?
[Re: tfabris]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/05/2001
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Loc: Bruges, Belgium
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What made you change your mind ?
The movies for Half Life 2, which is due out pretty soon IIRC. (Anyone hear any word?)
Hey Tony, a article popped up on Anandtech today, with some info on what card is the best to play the forthcoming Half-Life 2 game on.
You're not going to like their conclusion...
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#176295 - 11/09/2003 02:34
Re: CPU temp?
[Re: BartDG]
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Oops...guess I should have posted that under the HL2 benchmark topic that Drakino has posted.
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